Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
David Ackrill wrote: David Forbes wrote: This is interesting. It means that I, as an American exporter selling directly to end customers in the EU, do NOT need to CE mark my American made products. I have bought several items from the US for personal use, and not for resale, I don't

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
David Ackrill wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Correct, provided if you don't otherwise end up placing the product on the market, ie: by advertising directly in the EU or in global media targeting EU audiences (ie: in native language). That's interesting, given that it is often said that

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-16 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Geez folks, You've all been caught by a Troll. What's this really got to do with time??? Someone in all the above said an importer is a producer. A producer can produce. It's when they sell, things get interesting. Likewise an importer can import. It's when they sell, things get interesting. As

[time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Martyn Smith
Sorry you are wrong. There is no exemtion for CE marking. Nothing is excempt. All test equipment, all electronic equipment, even toothpaste must be CE marked. There is no exemtion for personal use. You maybe are getting confused with RoHS where test equipment is exempt. Martyn

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Martyn, please keep in mind that CE marking is a self-certified mark. Not like the FCC marking, that has to be officially tested and certified by a big lab. I am sure a lot of products from Asia just have a label affixed to them, and never underwent any real testing. Also, most of

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martyn Smith wri tes: Sorry you are wrong. There is no exemtion for CE marking. Nothing is excempt. All test equipment, all electronic equipment, even toothpaste must be CE marked. The CE rules only cover retail sale, it does not cover personal imports from

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Kimberley writes: CE testing/marking is a mine field. Not as simple a statement as self certifying! You need to tie in the CE certification with declarations of conformity (safety, EMC etc etc), all of which need testing. No, you only need to tie them to

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Arnold Tibus
of which need testing. It's an expensive business. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 August 2008 17:17 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark Hello Martyn, please keep in mind

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Arnold Tibus
A summary somewhat easier to read you can find here: CE Marking: Your Passport to the European Union http://www.i-b-t.net/anm/templates/trade_article.asp?articleid=262zoneid=3 perhaps it can bring some more light into the darkness of the worldtrade and the european market. regards Arnold,

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread David Forbes
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In the agreement with the Council, the European Parliament underlines that importers must place only compliant products on the Community market. Before placing a product on the market importers must ensure that [...] The important thing in this clause is placing a

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Forbes writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In the agreement with the Council, the European Parliament underlines that importers must place only compliant products on the Community market. Before placing a product on the market importers must ensure that [...]

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread David Ackrill
David Forbes wrote: This is interesting. It means that I, as an American exporter selling directly to end customers in the EU, do NOT need to CE mark my American made products. I have bought several items from the US for personal use, and not for resale, I don't remember any of them

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arnold Tibus writes: A summary somewhat easier to read you can find here: CE Marking: Your Passport to the European Union http://www.i-b-t.net/anm/templates/trade_article.asp?articleid=262zoneid=3 perhaps it can bring some more light into the darkness of the

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Arnold Tibus
Poul-Henning, you are propably fully right! And you caught the most important part: Burden on importers In the agreement with the Council, the European Parliament underlines that importers must place only compliant products on the Community market. Before placing a product on the market

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arnold Tibus writes: Poul-Henning, [...] For the purpose of law all importers are treated as producers. (Ref article 3 council directive (85/374/EEC) [!!!] This is the reason that Importers in Europe are so much worried about CE Marking on the product they import

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], David Ackrill writes: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Correct, provided if you don't otherwise end up placing the product on the market, ie: by advertising directly in the EU or in global media targeting EU audiences (ie: in native language). That's interesting, given

Re: [time-nuts] CE Mark

2008-08-15 Thread Alberto di Bene
And beware from the CE Mark on goods coming from China What it does mean is just China Export, and I am not kidding... 73 Alberto I2PHD ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to