[time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs
Moin, I just stumbled over a nice little summary how to calculate the jitter of a signal from its phase noise plot by silicon labs: http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN256.pdf Attila Kinali -- The trouble with you, Shev, is you don't say anything until you've saved up a whole truckload of damned heavy brick arguments and then you dump them all out and never look at the bleeding body mangled beneath the heap -- Tirin, The Dispossessed, U. Le Guin ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs
On 5/11/12 1:51 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: Moin, I just stumbled over a nice little summary how to calculate the jitter of a signal from its phase noise plot by silicon labs: http://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN256.pdf Attila Kinali and one from Wenzel http://www.wenzel.com/documents/spread1.htm ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs
And one from HP/Agilent (taking into account the colored noise too: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-3108EN.pdf And one from Fordahl, with the random zero cross consideration: http://www.metatech.com.tw/doc/appnote-fordahl/e-AN-02-3.pdf On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 5/11/12 1:51 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: Moin, I just stumbled over a nice little summary how to calculate the jitter of a signal from its phase noise plot by silicon labs: http://www.silabs.com/Support%**20Documents/TechnicalDocs/**AN256.pdfhttp://www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN256.pdf Attila Kinali and one from Wenzel http://www.wenzel.com/**documents/spread1.htmhttp://www.wenzel.com/documents/spread1.htm __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs
Hi Be very careful with all these phase noise to jitter conversions. They make some assumptions about the noise that are likely true, but may not be. The gotcha is that a normal noise measurement does not take phase data. Without the phase data you really can't properly do the reconstruction. You have to assume that it's random in the phase domain. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:28 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs And one from HP/Agilent (taking into account the colored noise too: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-3108EN.pdf And one from Fordahl, with the random zero cross consideration: http://www.metatech.com.tw/doc/appnote-fordahl/e-AN-02-3.pdf On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 5/11/12 1:51 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: Moin, I just stumbled over a nice little summary how to calculate the jitter of a signal from its phase noise plot by silicon labs: http://www.silabs.com/Support%**20Documents/TechnicalDocs/**AN256.pdfhttp:/ /www.silabs.com/Support%20Documents/TechnicalDocs/AN256.pdf Attila Kinali and one from Wenzel http://www.wenzel.com/**documents/spread1.htmhttp://www.wenzel.com/document s/spread1.htm __**_ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** mailman/listinfo/time-nutshttps://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tim e-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs
Hi, here is a very nice and easy to use online calculator for doing exactly this: _http://jittertime.com/resources/pncalc.shtml_ (http://jittertime.com/resources/pncalc.shtml) bye, Said In a message dated 5/11/2012 09:17:30 Pacific Daylight Time, li...@rtty.us writes: Hi Be very careful with all these phase noise to jitter conversions. They make some assumptions about the noise that are likely true, but may not be. The gotcha is that a normal noise measurement does not take phase data. Without the phase data you really can't properly do the reconstruction. You have to assume that it's random in the phase domain. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:28 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Calculating phase jitter from phase noise - appnote by silabs And one from HP/Agilent (taking into account the colored noise too: http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-3108EN.pdf And one from Fordahl, with the random zero cross consideration: http://www.metatech.com.tw/doc/appnote-fordahl/e-AN-02-3.pdf On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
