Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed. It is very sorry to hear that this is happening. This was the same lame excuse they used in the US. Save 2 cents then find out you don't have launch vehicles to get replacement GPS satellites

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

A very nice reply from Markus, DF6NM, creator of the Loran-C Live Grabber page with a new temporary URL to overcome the outage on the current site. Begin forwarded message: > From: Markus Vester > Subject: Re: document shutdown of European Loran-C? > Date: December 28,

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

Hi Each navigation chain requires 4 stations for navigation (one master to supply timing and three slaves to triangulate against). For reasonable navigation solutions you are limited to an area much smaller than the entire US. You can get a bit more distance over an “all water” path (it’s more

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

It is very sorry to hear that this is happening. This was the same lame excuse they used in the US. Save 2 cents then find out you don't have launch vehicles to get replacement GPS satellites in orbit. Nor the funds to build the satellites. I am actually happy I did not build the large loop for

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

I was of the impression 3 would do and the master can be one of the points. However for LORAN C after the new year it won't matter. eLORAN has some useful properties in the data channel. I suppose with luck we will all learn more about that. At least at the moment my old LORAN C gear is very

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

In message <678a5344-8039-4145-89a9-223106955...@n1k.org>, Bob Camp writes: >Each navigation chain requires 4 stations for navigation (one master to supply >timing and three slaves to triangulate against). All the european LORSTAs are absolutely timed, that improved precision

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

In message <5673c1bd.6070...@rubidium.dyndns.org>, Magnus Danielson writes: >It seems like the biggest problem for Loran-C is that they have not been >able to build an economical model to support it. That it complements the >GPS and GLONASS systems, as well as GALILEO in a somewhat

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

It seems like the biggest problem for Loran-C is that they have not been able to build an economical model to support it. That it complements the GPS and GLONASS systems, as well as GALILEO in a somewhat different mode disturbance is a technical detail which doesn't ripple though the reports.

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

On 17/12/15 10:50, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I've spent some time tracking this down, but it looks like all Loran-C in Europe shuts down on new-years eve. The only station I have not found official confirmation for is Sylt, but France, Norway, Denmark and UK have all officially announced

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

Sad news.. -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: 17 December 2015 10:51 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed. I've spent some time tracking this down, but it looks like all

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

In message <5672a8ed.1010...@g7iii.net>, Iain Young writes: >The UK is (supposedly) supportive of eLORAN, Yeah, but you need 3 transmitters and if norway and france closes there is *at best* Anthorn and Sylt left. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

u-turn :-) Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Iain Young Sent: 17 December 2015 12:22 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed. On 17/12/15 10:50, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

I have a memo / stakeholder briefing document from the General Lighthouse Authorities UK/Ireland (can't see any confidentiality notes on it), that states: "" 4. Effect if France Terminates eLoran It is hoped that the RNTF [http://rntfnd.org] commercial initiative can maintain the continuity of

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

>From what I understand there have been some strongly worded letters from the russian goverment to the norwegian with regards to the shutdown of Bø chain (Jan Mayen, Bø in Vesterålen and Berlevåg) all in Norway. The russians dont seems to happy with the loss of LORAN, specialy when aurora borealis

Re: [time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

On 17/12/15 15:21, Wojciech Owczarek wrote: I have a memo / stakeholder briefing document from the General Lighthouse Authorities UK/Ireland (can't see any confidentiality notes on it), that states: "" 4. Effect if France Terminates eLoran It is hoped that the RNTF [http://rntfnd.org]

[time-nuts] End of Loran-C in Europe confirmed.

I've spent some time tracking this down, but it looks like all Loran-C in Europe shuts down on new-years eve. The only station I have not found official confirmation for is Sylt, but France, Norway, Denmark and UK have all officially announced shut-down of their stations. It seems that they have