Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-04 Thread David
The probe compensation could be off.

What type of vertical plug-in was used?  The Tektronix 11000 series of
oscilloscopes scare me.

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:36:13 -0800, Rex  wrote:

>Good image.
>
>So, if I read that right it is a pulse about 1 uS wide and goes from 
>base of zero volts to about 5.8 V.
>
>Curious why the high level is over 5 V? Is your 5 V supply to the 
>Rubidium unit up there?
>
>On 2/3/2012 8:52 PM, Bob Bownes wrote:
>> Just for completeness sake, here is a screen capture off of my DSA-602 of
>> the 1pps. Note that the trace starts 500ns _before_ the 1pps triggers the
>> capture. Ah the wonders of digital sampling.
>>
>>
>> http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.jpg
>>
>> Also as a pdf
>>
>> http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.pdf
>>
>> Bo

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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-04 Thread Rex

Good image.

So, if I read that right it is a pulse about 1 uS wide and goes from 
base of zero volts to about 5.8 V.


Curious why the high level is over 5 V? Is your 5 V supply to the 
Rubidium unit up there?




On 2/3/2012 8:52 PM, Bob Bownes wrote:

Just for completeness sake, here is a screen capture off of my DSA-602 of
the 1pps. Note that the trace starts 500ns _before_ the 1pps triggers the
capture. Ah the wonders of digital sampling.


http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.jpg

Also as a pdf

http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.pdf

Bob




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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-03 Thread Bob Bownes
Just for completeness sake, here is a screen capture off of my DSA-602 of
the 1pps. Note that the trace starts 500ns _before_ the 1pps triggers the
capture. Ah the wonders of digital sampling.


http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.jpg

Also as a pdf

http://www.fastbobs.com/pictures/1pps.pdf

Bob


On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM, John Howell  wrote:

> Not odd but my mistake, I took a picture on both 'scopes and the Fluke
> gave marginally better results, the text referred to the wrong one. Sorry
> for the confusion.
>
> On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:43, David wrote:
>
> > Odd.  Did Tektronix mark it Fluke PM3082? :)
> >
> > It is nice to know that the current generation of digital cameras can
> > be used for this application.  It is too bad that the image has so
> > much noise.
> >
> > On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:27:03 +, John Howell 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> and here's another photo of the pulse from one of the newer
> breed of FE-5680A that require the 5V.
> >> Taken with a Sony Cybershot H5, 8 sec exposure, 'scope is an elderly
> Tektronix 2252
> >>
> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1690159/1PPS_1%20FE-5680E.jpg
> >>
> >> On 2 Feb 2012, at 15:50, Alberto di Bene wrote:
> >>
> >>> I managed to take a photo at the scope screen showing the 1 pps pulse
> >>> from an old FE-5680A (the one that does not need the 5V and does not
> >>> output the oscillator signal - just the 1pps).
> >>>
> >>> Exposure was 30 sec, F9. The signal was barely visible with naked eye,
> >>> and some jittering is present. The room of course was in complete
> >>> darkness, but the reflex of the stand-by led of another instrument
> >>> can be seen...
> >>>
> >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15089947/1pps.gif
>
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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-02 Thread John Howell
Not odd but my mistake, I took a picture on both 'scopes and the Fluke gave 
marginally better results, the text referred to the wrong one. Sorry for the 
confusion.

On 2 Feb 2012, at 16:43, David wrote:

> Odd.  Did Tektronix mark it Fluke PM3082? :)
> 
> It is nice to know that the current generation of digital cameras can
> be used for this application.  It is too bad that the image has so
> much noise.
> 
> On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:27:03 +, John Howell 
> wrote:
> 
>> and here's another photo of the pulse from one of the newer breed of 
>> FE-5680A that require the 5V.
>> Taken with a Sony Cybershot H5, 8 sec exposure, 'scope is an elderly 
>> Tektronix 2252
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1690159/1PPS_1%20FE-5680E.jpg
>> 
>> On 2 Feb 2012, at 15:50, Alberto di Bene wrote:
>> 
>>> I managed to take a photo at the scope screen showing the 1 pps pulse
>>> from an old FE-5680A (the one that does not need the 5V and does not
>>> output the oscillator signal - just the 1pps).
>>> 
>>> Exposure was 30 sec, F9. The signal was barely visible with naked eye,
>>> and some jittering is present. The room of course was in complete
>>> darkness, but the reflex of the stand-by led of another instrument
>>> can be seen...
>>> 
>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15089947/1pps.gif

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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-02 Thread David
Odd.  Did Tektronix mark it Fluke PM3082? :)

It is nice to know that the current generation of digital cameras can
be used for this application.  It is too bad that the image has so
much noise.

On Thu, 2 Feb 2012 16:27:03 +, John Howell 
wrote:

>and here's another photo of the pulse from one of the newer breed of 
>FE-5680A that require the 5V.
>Taken with a Sony Cybershot H5, 8 sec exposure, 'scope is an elderly Tektronix 
>2252
>
>http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1690159/1PPS_1%20FE-5680E.jpg
>
>On 2 Feb 2012, at 15:50, Alberto di Bene wrote:
>
>> I managed to take a photo at the scope screen showing the 1 pps pulse
>> from an old FE-5680A (the one that does not need the 5V and does not
>> output the oscillator signal - just the 1pps).
>> 
>> Exposure was 30 sec, F9. The signal was barely visible with naked eye,
>> and some jittering is present. The room of course was in complete
>> darkness, but the reflex of the stand-by led of another instrument
>> can be seen...
>> 
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15089947/1pps.gif

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Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-02 Thread John Howell
and here's another photo of the pulse from one of the newer breed of 
FE-5680A that require the 5V.
Taken with a Sony Cybershot H5, 8 sec exposure, 'scope is an elderly Tektronix 
2252

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1690159/1PPS_1%20FE-5680E.jpg

John H.


On 2 Feb 2012, at 15:50, Alberto di Bene wrote:

> I managed to take a photo at the scope screen showing the 1 pps pulse
> from an old FE-5680A (the one that does not need the 5V and does not
> output the oscillator signal - just the 1pps).
> 
> Exposure was 30 sec, F9. The signal was barely visible with naked eye,
> and some jittering is present. The room of course was in complete
> darkness, but the reflex of the stand-by led of another instrument
> can be seen...
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15089947/1pps.gif

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[time-nuts] FE-5680A 1 pps photo

2012-02-02 Thread Alberto di Bene
I managed to take a photo at the scope screen showing the 1 pps pulse
from an old FE-5680A (the one that does not need the 5V and does not
output the oscillator signal - just the 1pps).

Exposure was 30 sec, F9. The signal was barely visible with naked eye,
and some jittering is present. The room of course was in complete
darkness, but the reflex of the stand-by led of another instrument
can be seen...

73  Alberto  I2PHD

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15089947/1pps.gif





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