Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up on Z3801A high EFC reading

2011-07-16 Thread Graham / KE9H
John: If it was turned off for more than a year, in my experience, the HP10811 (or similar) oscillators at the heart of the Z3801A will take about three weeks to settle down, and rejoin the previous mature aging curve. I have built a few GPSDOs using HP10811 oscillators, that I bought off

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up on Z3801A high EFC reading

2011-07-16 Thread Dan Rae
One crystal expert, who's name escapes me, sorry, told me that if you power up an oscillator that has been off for an extended period, you should expect a very rapid ageing process to occur with a lot of the accumulated changes that would have happened had it been powered on then to occur when

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up on Z3801A high EFC reading

2011-07-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi John and Graham, On 16/07/11 22:50, Graham / KE9H wrote: John: If it was turned off for more than a year, in my experience, the HP10811 (or similar) oscillators at the heart of the Z3801A will take about three weeks to settle down, and rejoin the previous mature aging curve. I have built a

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up on Z3801A high EFC reading

2011-07-16 Thread Thomas S. Knutsen
I think it is in Matthys, Crystal oscillator circuits. Can't quote page number now, as my verson is somwhere I cant remember. It's an excellent book if you do some experimentation. I did write an letter to R.J. Matthys a couple of years ago, and reveiced an answer. 73 de Thomas LA3PNA/AE5YS.

Re: [time-nuts] Follow-up on Z3801A high EFC reading

2011-07-16 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Thomas, Dan, Magnus, Graham -- Thanks for the replies! This is an interesting example of no two oscillators are the same. I certainly expected that there would be aging and retrace on a cold oscillator, but I started both Z3801As almost simultaneously and within about 12 hours unit #1 had