Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Azelio Boriani]

Yes, thank you for the scan.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:04 AM, Don Lewis  wrote:

> Thank you, sir, it is very kind of you to scan.
>
> Could you please send me the larger file version.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Don Lewis
> dlewis6...@austin.rr.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of Peter Vince
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:16 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have just scanned the copy I bought from Amazon the other day
> (second revised edition, 1999).  It makes quite a large file, so
> uploaded it to Flickr - which seems to insist on resizing it!  The
> largest size is at:
>
> http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6163603871_fa6d44a623_b.jpg
>
> but I have higher resolution versions I can email to anyone who wants it.
>
> Regards,
>
>  Peter
>
>
> On 19 September 2011 19:07, Azelio Boriani 
> wrote:
> > Rob,
> > is it possible to scan the asides? The PDF from NIST has the asides too
> dark
> > to be readable (the last one is really difficult/impossible to read).
> > Thank you
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Don Lewis]

Thank you, sir, it is very kind of you to scan.

Could you please send me the larger file version.

Thank you.

Don Lewis
dlewis6...@austin.rr.com







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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Peter Vince
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

Hello all,

 I have just scanned the copy I bought from Amazon the other day
(second revised edition, 1999).  It makes quite a large file, so
uploaded it to Flickr - which seems to insist on resizing it!  The
largest size is at:

 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6163603871_fa6d44a623_b.jpg

but I have higher resolution versions I can email to anyone who wants it.

 Regards,

  Peter


On 19 September 2011 19:07, Azelio Boriani  wrote:
> Rob,
> is it possible to scan the asides? The PDF from NIST has the asides too
dark
> to be readable (the last one is really difficult/impossible to read).
> Thank you

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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Peter Vince]

Hello all,

 I have just scanned the copy I bought from Amazon the other day
(second revised edition, 1999).  It makes quite a large file, so
uploaded it to Flickr - which seems to insist on resizing it!  The
largest size is at:

 http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6156/6163603871_fa6d44a623_b.jpg

but I have higher resolution versions I can email to anyone who wants it.

 Regards,

  Peter


On 19 September 2011 19:07, Azelio Boriani  wrote:
> Rob,
> is it possible to scan the asides? The PDF from NIST has the asides too dark
> to be readable (the last one is really difficult/impossible to read).
> Thank you

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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Rob Kimberley]

Hi Azelio,

Unfortunately my original copy is in storage with a lot of other books (I
moved recently), so not accessible at present.

Maybe someone else can help you out on this.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Azelio Boriani
Sent: 19 September 2011 7:07 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

Rob,
is it possible to scan the asides? The PDF from NIST has the asides too dark
to be readable (the last one is really difficult/impossible to read).
Thank you

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Rob Kimberley <
timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Some history for you on this...
>
> The original idea came from Dr Jim Barnes who was head of T&F at NBS 
> (NIST).
> The idea was not well received from some quarters at NBS as it was 
> "too simplistic", and not "technical enough".
>
> Jim later worked for Austron and was there as Chief Scientific Officer 
> when I worked for them in the mid-80s.
>
> I agree with you, a great read!
>
> Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of paul swed
> Sent: 19 September 2011 4:24 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
>
> Funny I was just reading the hard copy I have last night.
> Great document and funny.
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rob Kimberley < 
> timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I bought a bunch of these when I worked for Austron, and gave them 
> > out to customers and reps. It was very well received. I have one 
> > original copy left at home, so thanks for the PDF link.
> >
> > Rob Kimberley
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Fahmie
> > Sent: 07 September 2011 6:27 PM
> > To: time-nuts@febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
> >
> > On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago 
> > (1978), I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From 
> > Sundials to Atomic Clocks"
> > by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it 
> > answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were 
> > afraid to ask.
> >
> > I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
> > undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current 
> > (1999) edition.
> >
> > http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> >
> > -Mike-
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Azelio Boriani]

Rob,
is it possible to scan the asides? The PDF from NIST has the asides too dark
to be readable (the last one is really difficult/impossible to read).
Thank you

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Rob Kimberley <
timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Some history for you on this...
>
> The original idea came from Dr Jim Barnes who was head of T&F at NBS
> (NIST).
> The idea was not well received from some quarters at NBS as it was "too
> simplistic", and not "technical enough".
>
> Jim later worked for Austron and was there as Chief Scientific Officer when
> I worked for them in the mid-80s.
>
> I agree with you, a great read!
>
> Rob
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of paul swed
> Sent: 19 September 2011 4:24 PM
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
>
> Funny I was just reading the hard copy I have last night.
> Great document and funny.
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rob Kimberley <
> timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mike,
> >
> > I bought a bunch of these when I worked for Austron, and gave them out
> > to customers and reps. It was very well received. I have one original
> > copy left at home, so thanks for the PDF link.
> >
> > Rob Kimberley
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com]
> > On Behalf Of Mike Fahmie
> > Sent: 07 September 2011 6:27 PM
> > To: time-nuts@febo.com
> > Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
> >
> > On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978),
> > I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to
> > Atomic Clocks"
> > by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers
> > all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to
> > ask.
> >
> > I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
> > undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999)
> > edition.
> >
> > http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> >
> > -Mike-
> > WA6ZTY
> >
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Rob Kimberley]

Some history for you on this...

The original idea came from Dr Jim Barnes who was head of T&F at NBS (NIST).
The idea was not well received from some quarters at NBS as it was "too
simplistic", and not "technical enough". 

Jim later worked for Austron and was there as Chief Scientific Officer when
I worked for them in the mid-80s.

I agree with you, a great read!

Rob

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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of paul swed
Sent: 19 September 2011 4:24 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

Funny I was just reading the hard copy I have last night.
Great document and funny.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rob Kimberley <
timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I bought a bunch of these when I worked for Austron, and gave them out 
> to customers and reps. It was very well received. I have one original 
> copy left at home, so thanks for the PDF link.
>
> Rob Kimberley
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] 
> On Behalf Of Mike Fahmie
> Sent: 07 September 2011 6:27 PM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
>
> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), 
> I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to 
> Atomic Clocks"
> by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers 
> all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to 
> ask.
>
> I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
> undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) 
> edition.
>
> http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
>
> -Mike-
> WA6ZTY
>
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[paul swed]

Funny I was just reading the hard copy I have last night.
Great document and funny.

On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rob Kimberley <
timing.consulta...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Hi Mike,
>
> I bought a bunch of these when I worked for Austron, and gave them out to
> customers and reps. It was very well received. I have one original copy
> left
> at home, so thanks for the PDF link.
>
> Rob Kimberley
>
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of Mike Fahmie
> Sent: 07 September 2011 6:27 PM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
>
> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was
> presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic
> Clocks"
> by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all
> of
> those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to ask.
>
> I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
> undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999)
> edition.
>
> http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
>
> -Mike-
> WA6ZTY
>
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Rob Kimberley]

Hi Mike,

I bought a bunch of these when I worked for Austron, and gave them out to
customers and reps. It was very well received. I have one original copy left
at home, so thanks for the PDF link.

Rob Kimberley

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Behalf Of Mike Fahmie
Sent: 07 September 2011 6:27 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was
presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic Clocks"
by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all of
those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to ask.

I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999)
edition.

http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf

-Mike-
WA6ZTY


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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[paul swed]

The link worked fine at the nist site for me though it is slow.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:13 AM, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 19:27, Mike Fahmie  wrote:
> > On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I
> was
> > presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic
> Clocks"
> > by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all
> of
> > those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to ask.
>
> Excuse me if this is not news to many of you, but in case someone doesn't
> know,
> this monograph is also available in print from Dover:
>
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Sundials-Atomic-Clocks-Understanding-Frequency/dp/0486409139
>
> (it says in the book that it is a printing of the 1999 version of the
> monograph)
>
> I enjoyed the read. :)
>
> Cheers
> P.
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Pierpaolo Bernardi]

On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 19:27, Mike Fahmie  wrote:
> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was
> presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic Clocks"
> by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all of
> those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid to ask.

Excuse me if this is not news to many of you, but in case someone doesn't know,
this monograph is also available in print from Dover:

http://www.amazon.com/Sundials-Atomic-Clocks-Understanding-Frequency/dp/0486409139

(it says in the book that it is a printing of the 1999 version of the monograph)

I enjoyed the read. :)

Cheers
P.

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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Ken , VK7KRJ]

Many thanks Randall, that downloaded first go. I guess nist must be blocking some ip's for 
whatever reason.


And thanks to everyone else who replied also, your suggestions were appreciated.

On 2011-09-09 08:32, Randall Prentice wrote:

Have uploaded a copy in NZ.

http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf

Couldn't download off TelstraClear,  had to use Actrix links  (DNS didn't 
resolve properly).

Regards
Randall   ZL2RJP


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[time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Arthur Dent]

I have the Dover paperback (2nd revised edition, 1999, monograph 155)

of 'From Sundials to Atomic Clocks' that I bought for the list price of 

$12.95 online.

-Arthur
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Alan Melia]

It is a big file (136 pages) and I had several hangs on it but eventually
got a copy.  I guess all the members were downloading at the same time :-))

Alan G3NYK

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:07 AM
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> Thanks Randall,
> It downloaded from you OK,
> I too could not get it directly  in Sydney.
> cheers,
> Neville Michie
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 09/09/2011, at 8:32 AM, Randall Prentice wrote:
>
> > Have uploaded a copy in NZ.
> >
> > http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf
> >
> > Couldn't download off TelstraClear,  had to use Actrix links  (DNS
> > didn't resolve properly).
> >
> > Regards
> > Randall   ZL2RJP
> > -Original Message-
> > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-
> > boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Ken , VK7KRJ
> > Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:04 a.m.
> > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
> >
> > Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
> > I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out
> > waiting for a reply.
> > I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect.
> > No problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist
> >
> > I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find
> > the file anywhere else.
> >
> > On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:
> >> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978),
> >> I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to
> >> Atomic Clocks" by one of the authors. I found it to be a fantastic
> >> read, it answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency
> >> that you were afraid to ask.
> >>
> >> I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
> >> undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current
> >> (1999) edition.
> >>
> >> http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> >>
> >> -Mike-
> >> WA6ZTY
> >>
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Neville Michie]

Thanks Randall,
It downloaded from you OK,
I too could not get it directly  in Sydney.
cheers,
Neville Michie







On 09/09/2011, at 8:32 AM, Randall Prentice wrote:


Have uploaded a copy in NZ.

http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf

Couldn't download off TelstraClear,  had to use Actrix links  (DNS  
didn't resolve properly).


Regards
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Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:04 a.m.
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out  
waiting for a reply.
I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect.  
No problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist


I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find  
the file anywhere else.


On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:

On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978),
I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to
Atomic Clocks" by one of the authors. I found it to be a fantastic
read, it answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency  
that you were afraid to ask.


I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current  
(1999) edition.


http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf

-Mike-
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Tristan Steele]

Hi Randall,

Thanks for that! It finally worked.

Tristan



On 09/09/2011, at 8:32, Randall Prentice  
wrote:

> Have uploaded a copy in NZ.
> 
> http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf
> 
> Couldn't download off TelstraClear,  had to use Actrix links  (DNS didn't 
> resolve properly).
> 
> Regards
> Randall   ZL2RJP
> -Original Message-
> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On 
> Behalf Of Ken , VK7KRJ
> Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:04 a.m.
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
> 
> Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
> I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting 
> for a reply.
> I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem 
> with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist
> 
> I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the file 
> anywhere else.
> 
> On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:
>> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), 
>> I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to 
>> Atomic Clocks" by one of the authors. I found it to be a fantastic 
>> read, it answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were 
>> afraid to ask.
>> 
>> I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
>> undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) 
>> edition.
>> 
>> http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
>> 
>> -Mike-
>> WA6ZTY
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[mike cook]

Le 09/09/2011 00:05, Tristan Steele a écrit :

Yep,  I can't get it either - and I am also in Australia, so I think there 
might be something in that.

Is there any chance someone could mirror it on a server accessible from Down 
Under. :-)

Thanks!
Tristan



  try me - might work

http://gluon.stratum1.d2g.com/tmp/1796.pdf

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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Randall Prentice]

Have uploaded a copy in NZ.

http://prento.homelinux.net/1796.pdf

Couldn't download off TelstraClear,  had to use Actrix links  (DNS didn't 
resolve properly).

Regards
Randall   ZL2RJP
-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf 
Of Ken , VK7KRJ
Sent: Friday, 9 September 2011 9:04 a.m.
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting for 
a reply.
I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem 
with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist

I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the file 
anywhere else.

On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:
> On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), 
> I was presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to 
> Atomic Clocks" by one of the authors. I found it to be a fantastic 
> read, it answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were 
> afraid to ask.
>
> I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
> undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) 
> edition.
>
> http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
>
> -Mike-
> WA6ZTY
>
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[WB6BNQ]

Ken,

I just checked it and it worked fine.  It is a rather big PDF of 306 pages.  
Using OPERA, it
took a while to download with no indication that it was doing it or when it 
actually started to
download.  But, finally it arrived.  So maybe you did not wait long enough for 
the "*.gov"
computer to respond ?

BillWB6BNQ

"Ken , VK7KRJ" wrote:

> Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
> I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting 
> for a reply.
> I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem 
> with the
> nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist
>
> I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the file 
> anywhere else.
>
> On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:
> > On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was 
> > presented with
> > a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic Clocks" by one of the 
> > authors. I
> > found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all of those questions about 
> > Time & Frequency
> > that you were afraid to ask.
> >
> > I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
> > undergone two
> > revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) edition.
> >
> > http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> >
> > -Mike-
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Azelio Boriani]

Yes,
it works for me too. Unfortunately the .PDF has nice but shaded 'asides'.
The last, for example, is unreadable.

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 11:31 PM, mike cook  wrote:

> Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écrit :
>
>  Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
>> I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out
>> waiting for a reply.
>> I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No
>> problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist
>>
>> I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the
>> file anywhere else.
>>
>>  not for me. are you resolving the address ok and using port 80?
>
> $ wget 
> http://tf.nist.gov/general/**pdf/1796.pdf
> --2011-09-08 23:24:56--  
> http://tf.nist.gov/general/**pdf/1796.pdf
> Resolving tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)... 132.163.4.169
> Connecting to tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)|132.163.4.169|:**80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 26959306 (26M) [application/pdf]
> Saving to: `1796.pdf'
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Tristan Steele]

Yep,  I can't get it either - and I am also in Australia, so I think there 
might be something in that.

Is there any chance someone could mirror it on a server accessible from Down 
Under. :-)

Thanks!
Tristan



On 09/09/2011, at 7:31, mike cook  wrote:

> Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écrit :
>> Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
>> I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting 
>> for a reply.
>> I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No 
>> problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist
>> 
>> I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the file 
>> anywhere else.
>> 
> not for me. are you resolving the address ok and using port 80?
> 
> $ wget http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> --2011-09-08 23:24:56--  http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
> Resolving tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)... 132.163.4.169
> Connecting to tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)|132.163.4.169|:80... connected.
> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
> Length: 26959306 (26M) [application/pdf]
> Saving to: `1796.pdf'
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[mike cook]

Le 08/09/2011 23:03, Ken , VK7KRJ a écrit :

Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out 
waiting for a reply.
I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No 
problem with the nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist


I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the 
file anywhere else.



not for me. are you resolving the address ok and using port 80?

$ wget http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
--2011-09-08 23:24:56--  http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf
Resolving tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)... 132.163.4.169
Connecting to tf.nist.gov (tf.nist.gov)|132.163.4.169|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 26959306 (26M) [application/pdf]
Saving to: `1796.pdf'




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Re: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Ken , VK7KRJ]

Is anyone else having trouble with this url?
I've been trying it since the email came through, it just times out waiting for 
a reply.
I did try to get to it from the parent site, with the same effect. No problem with the 
nist site direct, but no go with tf.nist


I have no trouble with .pdf's from anywhere else, but I can't find the file 
anywhere else.

On 2011-09-08 03:27, Mike Fahmie wrote:

On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was 
presented with
a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic Clocks" by one of the 
authors. I
found it to be a fantastic read, it answers all of those questions about Time & 
Frequency
that you were afraid to ask.

I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has undergone 
two
revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) edition.

http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf

-Mike-
WA6ZTY


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[time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Marvin E. Gozum]

An excellent summary, thanks, a worthy read.

At 05:59 PM 9/7/2011, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:


Message: 1
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2011 10:27:26 -0700
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To: 
Subject: [time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks
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On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was
presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic
Clocks" by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it
answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid
to ask.

I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has
undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current 
(1999) edition.


http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf

-Mike-
WA6ZTY




Sincerely,



Marv Gozum
Philadelphia, PA 



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[time-nuts] From Sundials to Atomic Clocks

[Mike Fahmie]

On a visit to NIST Boulder (then known as NBS) many years ago (1978), I was 
presented with a copy of NBS Monograph 155, "From Sundials to Atomic 
Clocks" by one of the authors.  I found it to be a fantastic read, it 
answers all of those questions about Time & Frequency that you were afraid 
to ask.


I stumbled on it again today in PDF form on the NIST website, it has 
undergone two revisions and this URL points to the most current (1999) edition.


http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1796.pdf

-Mike-
WA6ZTY


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