Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread shalimr9
It is not that hard to transmit broad band noise over the entire GPS channel and clobber it entirely. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: johncr...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread -Brian, WA1ZMS (iPad)
over the entire GPS channel and clobber it entirely. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: johncr...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 9:33 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer In considering the effect

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Ron Ward n6idl...@comcast.net wrote: Hi: Other than a terrorist, who would want to jam GPS? A delivery truck driver. His boss installs a GPS tracker on the truck and the driver wants to take a three hour lunch break. This is a pretty common scenario and likely

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread Frederick Bray
-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer On 10/02/2012 11:05 PM, John Lofgren wrote: The 0.5 W and + 10 dBm numbers in the specs don't work out. +10 dBm is 10 mW. I suspect that the 1/2 watt is really the DC input power. Now, that makes sense. And, I'd agree about the range

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread Brian, WA1ZMS
Let me just say that that's flea power! I saw some 80watt jammers being sold for movie theaters and churches. There is some very black market items from China, via Hong Kong and can arrive at your doorstep in just 4 days via DHL! What's out there would scare you. Been dealing with the fall out

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-03 Thread Bill Hawkins
Who would want to jam GPS? Haven't heard this one: Fishing party boat captain - knows where to find the fishing spots after years of experience. Rotates use of the spots so as not to over-fish them. Arrives at his spots to find fishermen who had gone out with him and captured the GPS locations of

[time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread J. Forster
Take a look at the specs of this unit: http://www.mobilephonejammer.com.au/covert-gps-jammer-portable-p-119.html The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think there is something wrong? -John

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Tom Miller
-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 4:43 PM Subject: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer Take a look at the specs of this unit: http://www.mobilephonejammer.com.au/covert-gps-jammer-portable-p-119.html The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/02/2012 10:43 PM, J. Forster wrote: Take a look at the specs of this unit: http://www.mobilephonejammer.com.au/covert-gps-jammer-portable-p-119.html The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think there is something wrong? For a 500 mW jammer

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread John Lofgren
loud compared to the nominal -130 to -140 dBm you'd hear from the satellites. -John -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 4:02 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread David
On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 23:01:45 +0200, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: On 10/02/2012 10:43 PM, J. Forster wrote: Take a look at the specs of this unit: http://www.mobilephonejammer.com.au/covert-gps-jammer-portable-p-119.html The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 10/02/2012 11:05 PM, John Lofgren wrote: The 0.5 W and + 10 dBm numbers in the specs don't work out. +10 dBm is 10 mW. I suspect that the 1/2 watt is really the DC input power. Now, that makes sense. And, I'd agree about the range. +10 dBm into a dipole at 10 meters gets you about

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think there is something wrong? I'd expect a much greater range with a 0.5 W jammer. But note that 0.5 W is the total output power -- the transmit power is only 10 dBm (0.01 W). Whatever those terms mean.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Bob Camp
HI At least from here, the link no longer works. Bob On Oct 2, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz charles_steinm...@lavabit.com wrote: The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think there is something wrong? I'd expect a much greater range

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/2/12 4:48 PM, Charles P. Steinmetz wrote: The Power Output is 0.5 Watts and it claims a jamming range of 1-10 Meters. Anybody think there is something wrong? I'd expect a much greater range with a 0.5 W jammer. But note that 0.5 W is the total output power -- the transmit power is

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread johncroos
In considering the effect of a simple jammer on a GPS receiver, a simple link analysis is insufficient. What must also be considered is the anti-jam capability of the receiver which due to spread spectrum processing gain will reject any simple jamming signal even though is it 10's of dB

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/2/12 7:33 PM, johncr...@aol.com wrote: In considering the effect of a simple jammer on a GPS receiver, a simple link analysis is insufficient. What must also be considered is the anti-jam capability of the receiver which due to spread spectrum processing gain will reject any simple

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Tom Miller
We don't know that they modulate the jamming signal some what. I bet 10 mW would do a good bit of harm to GPS systems even a block away. - Original Message - From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:45 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Michael Perrett
John, Coherent reproduction of the spread PRN standard positioning signal (SPS) signal gives ~30dB of A/J protection, the GPS signal level, as received at the GPS receiver is on the order of -160 dBW (L1-CA). If the jammer outputs half a Watt, and is anywhere nearby, the receiver will not maintain

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread gary
I talked to the GPS jamming group at Nellis a few years ago. They use broadband noise to jam GPSs. If somebody is going to the Nellis Aviation Nation coming up in November, the jammer group always has a static display. They have some Soviet jammer gear they acquired.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Ron Ward
Hi: Other than a terrorist, who would want to jam GPS? Ron -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:28 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer On 10/02/2012

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread bownes
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Magnus Danielson Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 2:28 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer On 10/02/2012 11:05 PM, John Lofgren wrote: The 0.5 W and + 10 dBm

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Hal Murray
Other than a terrorist, who would want to jam GPS? Generic bad guys who don't want the FBI tracking them. The civil liberties types are suing the FBI to make sure the get a court document before they install GPS trackers on suspects cars. Truckers who don't want their boss to know what they

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer

2012-10-02 Thread Ron Ward
: [time-nuts] GPS Jammer Other than a terrorist, who would want to jam GPS? Generic bad guys who don't want the FBI tracking them. The civil liberties types are suing the FBI to make sure the get a court document before they install GPS trackers on suspects cars. Truckers who don't want