Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-29 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Dan, The classic Aeroantenna SPIKE snow cone. http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/ANTCAL/LoadImage?name=AERAT1675_120%2BSPKE.t.jpg The old Ashtech snow cone http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/ANTCAL/LoadImage?name=ASH700936A_M%2BNONE.t.jpg Both of the above will keep birds looking for another place to rest.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-29 Thread Tom Van Baak
You can get a good view of typical high-end GPS antennas with an image search like: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=cors+gps+antenna For examples of antenna and winter conditions, try these: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=ischq=gps+antenna+snow

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.)

2014-08-29 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 09:15:18 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:04:36 +0200 From: Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was:, LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-29 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Björn and Tom, Thanks for the links. It helps visualize things a lot! Our snow was unusually weird last year. It stuck on everything, any stick larger than a pencil had at least basket ball sized hunks of snow on it. That's probably a worst case scenario, tho. Joe, OK on the study of snow. It's

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was:, LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Most GPS antennas have a preamp in them. All of the common Time Nut antennas have one. Gain varies from the mid twenties to over 40db between models. You really do not want much more gain than you need, so more is not generally better. Satellite TV coax is the material of choice for GPS

[time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:48:51 -0400 Dan Kemppainen d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: Also, I have a low cost antenna coming. It's one of the Synergy systems puck type amplified antennas. I remember some time back a bit of chatter about improving GPS antennas for timing, by providing some sort of

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Graham Haddock
The similar, and more serious issue is bird-poop. The pointed cone shapes you see for commercial timing receiver antennas are as much to keep birds from sitting on top of the antennas as it is to get the snow off. At least snow will eventually melt off. --- Graham / KE9H == On Thu, Aug 28,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Chris Albertson
The same shape that keeps bird off the antenna also keeps birds off. It is worth getting the tall cone shape no matter where you live. On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:48:51 -0400 Dan Kemppainen d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: Also, I

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Björn
of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com /divdivRubrik: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T Software.) /divdiv /divThe same shape that keeps bird off the antenna also keeps birds off. It is worth getting the tall cone shape no matter where you live

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Björn, Can you provide links to some examples? A picture or two would be great! Attila, Almost all the snow we get accumulates. However it does settle, even then by mid February it's not unusual to see 4 or 5 feet on the ground... However, that raises a good questions, in terms of cones and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna in snowy environment (was: LEA-6T, Software.)

2014-08-28 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:00:19 -0400 Dan Kemppainen d...@irtelemetrics.com wrote: However, that raises a good questions, in terms of cones and shedding snow. I wonder how a straight slender vertical pipe with capped end would work. Say 6 feet long. Let the snow build on the top. You might loose