Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-11-01 Thread Joseph Gauthier
Hi all, I'm new here (been reading for a while, but this is my first reply) so sorry if I'm not doing this reply thing right. There is a Spirent simulator down the hall from me that I tested the output PPS on a few months ago using an Agilent 53230A (OCXO option). While I don't remember the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-11-01 Thread John Lofgren
-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lux Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 8:39 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing Hello Said, I'm familiar with your postings on the Time Nuts list, so I thought I'd ask your advice

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread SAIDJACK
John, thanks for your email, I am replying to Time Nuts as well as there is a lot of knowledgeable folks here that can help. In terms of a GPSDO tutorial, take a look at the HP papers linked on the JLT website under the Links Of Interest and Related Whitepaper sections:

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread John Lofgren
Thank you very much for the thorough reply. Best Regards, John From: saidj...@aol.com [mailto:saidj...@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:17 PM To: John Lofgren; time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: GPS receiver testing John, thanks for your email, I am replying to Time Nuts as well as

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Danielson
John, I would advice you to look at what Spirent and Pendulum can offer you with regards to GPS simulators. The Pendulum GPS simulation should be of interest as it is a fairly decent cost, where as the Spirent equipment is really really good. One way to characterize PPS properties is to do

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread k4...@aol.com
-Original message- From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 1, 2012 00:11:51 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing John, I would advice you to look at what Spirent and Pendulum can offer you with regards to GPS simulators

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Azelio Boriani
,Doug Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless -Original message- From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 1, 2012 00:11:51 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing John, I would advice you to look at what Spirent

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 11/01/2012 01:31 AM, k4...@aol.com wrote: Magnus, Most GPS simulators only have an OCXO in them which are not very good for making precision timing measurements. The simulator needs to have a rubidium in it or have an external input for a more precision frequency source. Not really, the GPS

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Tom Van Baak
Measuring 1PPS stability requires a counter and a reference. As Said mentioned, the counter requirement is fairly simple: any sub-nanosecond counter like a 53132A is fine (higher resolution is wasted anyway). But the reference requirement is the more difficult. If you want to measure down to

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
Hello Said, I'm familiar with your postings on the Time Nuts list, so I thought I'd ask your advice. I searched the Time Nuts archive, but didn't come up with what I was looking for (reference to a good GPS tutotial). We have a GPS project in-house that requires us to characterize

Re: [time-nuts] GPS receiver testing

2012-10-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/31/12 6:17 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: Please read John Plumb's paper: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper29.pdf and Rick Hambly's paper: http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/ptti2002/paper9.pdf At JPL, most of the calibration and performance testing and such is done using an