[time-nuts] GPSDO question

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Stewart
Speaking with Tom recently impressed on me just how much I don't know about what's normal for a GPSDO.  The options on the LEA-6T are formidable and have consequences for my GPSDO.  The question I'm struggling with now is what's normal during the survey process?  The only example of a

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO question

2015-07-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Commercial GPSDO’s are manufactured to a specific customer requirement. The application in the system dictates how it behaves as it it powered up or power cycled. There is no single “always correct” approach. In a Time Nut environment, people seem to be quite happy setting up temperature

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-04 Thread Bert
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY He everyone, Just a few points/questions I would like to make regarding the discussion FLL vs PLL vs my design. One question that I have is regarding FLL vs PLL. The statement that a PLL is better than a FLL on a GPSDO may

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-04 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Bert Bert wrote: He everyone, Just a few points/questions I would like to make regarding the discussion FLL vs PLL vs my design. One question that I have is regarding FLL vs PLL. The statement that a PLL is better than

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-03 Thread Tim Shoppa
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom Van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jerry It is amusing/distressing to see that the myth that using an FLL to lock an oscillator to the PPS output of a GPS receiver is a good approach still persists. The optimum

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-03 Thread SAIDJACK
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 9/2/2007 13:16:32 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But for many frequency (e.g., transmitters) or time interval applications (e.g., frequency counters with finite gate times), I'd like

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-03 Thread Magnus Danielson
From: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 20:06:03 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false This brings up another question: how good are true

[time-nuts] GPSDO Question - FLL vs PLL

2007-09-02 Thread JOS Earthlink
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Bruce, Yes, you're absolutely correct that PLL is the way to go if you need better than 10e-10 but my counters are only able to read 10e-9 anyway :-) Jerry K1JOS ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Jerry It is amusing/distressing to see that the myth that using an FLL to lock an oscillator to the PPS output of a GPS receiver is a good approach still persists. The optimum solution is a phase lock loop. Whilst

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom Van Baak wrote: Jerry It is amusing/distressing to see that the myth that using an FLL to lock an oscillator to the PPS output of a GPS receiver is a good approach still persists. The optimum solution is a

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY From: Tom Van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:13:39 -0700 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Jerry

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Mike Feher
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WB6BNQ Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 4:48 PM To: Tom Van Baak; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question - Clarification Please

2007-09-02 Thread Thomas Linbeck
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Griffiths Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:19 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread GandalfG8
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY In a message dated 02/09/2007 04:20:54 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is amusing/distressing to see that the myth that using an FLL to lock an oscillator to the PPS output of a GPS receiver is a good

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom Van Baak wrote: Jerry It is amusing/distressing to see that the myth that using an FLL to lock an oscillator to the PPS output of a GPS receiver is a good approach still persists. The optimum solution is a phase lock

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps it depends on how you define a good approach. If you're looking for the very best you can get then it probably isn't, but I don't recall that being claimed in the

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question - Clarification Please

2007-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Thomas Linbeck wrote: I am confused by the PLL vs. FFL lock discussion. Does this concern the Schera board vs. the VE2ZAZ methods of time base discipline? Can someone share their thoughts on the subject? Thanks! 73 de

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-02 Thread Bruce Griffiths
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Idaho State University version is reported on their web page for the project as having been checked over a 13 day period, by the Idaho National Laboratories Calibration Lab, and found to

[time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-09-01 Thread JOS Earthlink
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY 73 de K1JOS (Jerry) CCA #11906 CRA #1777 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 12:00 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com

[time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-08-31 Thread Tom Clifton
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I have gathered everything I need to assemble a GPS Disciplined Oscillator. I have the Brooks Shera controller assembled, am about 99% done on the linear power supplies for +/- 5V, 12V supplies and a separate 24V oven heater

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-08-31 Thread Dick, W1KSZ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY If you use the HP Oscillator in your GPSDO, you can then use the 10 MHz output as an external reference for your counter. I picked up a 10 MHz distribution amp and use the same GPSDO to act as external reference on several

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-08-31 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY The HP-10811 oven is sitting happily in a working 5328A counter that I'm willing to cannibalize, but do I need to? Is there any reason why I shouldn't put the controler in the 5328 case so I can use it as a counter as well

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO Question

2007-08-31 Thread WB6BNQ
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Tom Van Baak wrote: The HP-10811 oven is sitting happily in a working 5328A counter that I'm willing to cannibalize, but do I need to? Is there any reason why I shouldn't put the controler in the 5328 case so I can