Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-05 Thread Tom Holmes
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers Hi, El 04/07/2011 23:29, Jim Lux escribió: you definitely want phase. Otherwise a regular old sweeper and a spectrum analyzer would do. But phase implies a synchronous receiver, which greatly

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-05 Thread Javier Herrero
Hi, Tom, Thanks for your comments. Generally speaking, my VNA needs are quite ocassional, so even a new ENA would be difficult to amortize :) although I see it is a nice machine - but surely in the price range of a good car (I've a price reference of around 28000 EUR for the 1.5 or 3GHz

[time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present and near future needs would be an 8510C system (well, surely a new PNA-X would fulfill it better - except budgetary :) ).

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Marco IK1ODO
At 20:47 04/07/2011, you wrote: Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present and near future needs would be an 8510C system (well, surely a new PNA-X would fulfill it

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread J. Forster
Try the TestEquipTrader Group or the HP_Aglent_Equipment Group on Yahoo. -John Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present and near future needs

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/11 11:47 AM, Javier Herrero wrote: Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present and near future needs would be an 8510C system (well, surely a new PNA-X would

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Javier Herrero
Hello, Jim, El 04/07/2011 22:00, Jim Lux escribió: WHat frequency range do you need? We have an intermittently dead 8510 at work, but in the course of trying to get it to work again, I've learned a fair amount about it.. For now, 2.2 and 8.2GHz, but would like something that covers future

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 7/4/11 1:40 PM, Javier Herrero wrote: Hello, Jim, Again for now, no extensive frequency precision, so would be suitable. I suppose that this is valid with the 8350B sources, but does it operates in the same way with an 8340 synthesized sweeper, or in that case it commands the frequency

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Javier Herrero
Hi, El 04/07/2011 23:29, Jim Lux escribió: you definitely want phase. Otherwise a regular old sweeper and a spectrum analyzer would do. But phase implies a synchronous receiver, which greatly improves the dynamic range, and that's often what you want.. Right! For my current application,

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I remember from working on the 8410/8409 that sweepers are bad news for VNAs. The problem is both repeatability of frequency (you need to come back to the same frequency many times then combine all that data for calibration and for measurement) and phase noise. You really need a

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Jose Camara
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present

Re: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers

2011-07-04 Thread Robert Darlington
Subject: [time-nuts] General questions on 8510C network analyzers Hello all! I'm in the need of a network analyzer, and after some considerations about the different available options, I think that the unit that best suits my present and near future needs would be an 8510C system (well, surely