Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread ashley40
-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi David, Skip Withrow and I were able to figure out the connections and the basic operational features. I've attached a document that describes our findings. I wouldn't mind picking up another

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread tcur...@sbcglobal.net
I'm certainly interested. I'm in the general zip code area, so I can pick up. Call me at 714 402-1280. Thanks, Tom Sent from my HTC Inspireā„¢ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Date: Fri, Nov 8

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread tcur...@sbcglobal.net
Sorry, didn't see the Oregon address. I'll happily pay for shipping to California. Tom Sent from my HTC Inspireā„¢ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: ashle...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Date: Fri, Nov 8, 2013 7:07 am Hi All

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Gerald Chafee
, Oregon 97113 W7DUZ www.kiss-electronics.com -Original Message- From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi David

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Gerald Chafee
-Original Message- From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi David, Skip Withrow and I were able to figure out

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Gerald Chafee
- From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi David, Skip Withrow and I were able to figure out the connections and the basic

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Mart Sakalov
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Are you looking for a Paypal payment for postage? Gerald Chafee On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM, ashle...@aol.com wrote: Hi All, We acquired a T-Bolt from an estate , its untested, seal is unbroken, it might be good or might

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Gerald Chafee
- From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sun, Oct 27, 2013 1:54 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi David, Skip Withrow and I were able to figure out the connections and the basic

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-11-08 Thread Gerald Chafee
Chafee [gcha...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 08 November 2013 4:16 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Are you looking for a Paypal payment for postage? Gerald Chafee On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM, ashle...@aol.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-10-28 Thread David Hooke
Thanks Ed (and Skip), I've bolted the PCBs back together, and have it connected both via SatStat and Ulrich's Z38XX. I'll let the oscillator cook for another week and check the PN and ADEV, and if the E1938 looks good, figure out the UT+ configuration. Cheerio. Hi David, Skip Withrow

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-10-27 Thread David Hooke
Hi Ed, My E1938 also came from a very battered STLN4096A from the same source, and I might also try to get the other boards functional. Could you share the details of the GPS connections, and which GPS receiver you used? Cheers, david I recently purchased a Motorola STLN4096A with the HP

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2013-10-27 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi David, Skip Withrow and I were able to figure out the connections and the basic operational features. I've attached a document that describes our findings. I wouldn't mind picking up another E1938 oscillator, but I'm reluctant to buy one that might have mismatched oscillator and circuit

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-09 Thread Azelio Boriani
oscillates. Let it cool down and I need to repeat the stimulus procedure. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Time-Nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Benward
Message - From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi Bob, I bought mine on eBay from fluke.l for about $114 (including

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Palmer
, January 08, 2012 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering Hi Bob, I bought mine on eBay from fluke.l for about $114 (including shipping). I don't know if he has any more. He didn't get positive feedback from me. His pictures showed a reasonable, used unit. The unit he

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-09 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Ed Palmer wrote: On 1/9/2012 8:58 AM, Robert Benward wrote: Hi Ed, I just tracked down Fluke and he offered me one, and per your advice I will try and confirm the condition before purchasing from him (not that there are alternate sources) . I have to say that fluke.l did guarantee that

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-09 Thread Ed Palmer
Thanks for the correction, Bruce. I made the mistake of thinking that the Bridge Section was the only thing inside the puck. I should have looked further. Ed On 1/9/2012 12:47 PM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Ed Palmer wrote: On 1/9/2012 8:58 AM, Robert Benward wrote: Hi Ed, I just tracked

[time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Ed Palmer
I recently purchased a Motorola STLN4096A with the HP E1938A oscillator. I bought it for the oscillator only. Then I got intrigued by the HP Z3817A GPSDO that's included. I've reverse engineered most of it and I've got it running. The 1 PPS is really good ( 1000 measurements, Std. Dev. of

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Azelio Boriani
Have you already this? On the TIB (P1) DB-25 connector, I'm fairly confident about these: V+ pins 1 and 21 V- pins 8 and 25 10MHz #1 pins 2/15 xfmr coupled, ~4.6V into 1M 10MHz #2 pins 23/16 xfmr coupled, ~4.6V into 1M 1PPS pin 14 Supply voltage is dictated by Lucent DC-DC converter. Input is

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Azelio, Thanks, but I already found that. I've moved quite a bit beyond that. That message was one of the few in the archives that had any significant info on this unit. For some reason, I find that surprising. Ed On 1/8/2012 11:33 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Have you already this?

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, I wasn't able to find anything else. Moreover the STLN4096A seems to have a Rb oscillator now from the usual 'bay vendor... so seems confusing as the Z3817A may be the E1938A mounted on the PCB that can discipline it or it is another type of unit or whatever else. No picture found until now

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Ed Palmer
On 1/8/2012 12:19 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: OK, I wasn't able to find anything else. Moreover the STLN4096A seems to have a Rb oscillator now from the usual 'bay vendor... so seems confusing as the Z3817A may be the E1938A mounted on the PCB that can discipline it or it is another type of unit

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Benward
: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering I recently purchased a Motorola STLN4096A with the HP E1938A oscillator. I bought it for the oscillator only. Then I got intrigued by the HP Z3817A GPSDO that's included. I've reverse engineered most of it and I've got it running. The 1 PPS is really

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering

2012-01-08 Thread Ed Palmer
down and I need to repeat the stimulus procedure. Anybody have any ideas? Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net To: Time-Nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 12:20 PM Subject: [time-nuts] HP Z3817A Reverse Engineering I recently