Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread David J Taylor
Hi Chris! I have a week's worth of data now... Take a look at these graphics http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346508/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346522/ One of them shows is the plot of the loopstats of my stratum 1 server. The other one

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi David! On 5 June 2013 06:58, David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Miguel, I notice a step in the blue (ntp02) graph in: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**miguelbarbosagoncalves/**8955346508/http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346508/ and I think in

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-05 Thread Hal Murray
m...@mbg.pt said: I believe something has happened but not on my side. The offset for ntp02 changed its sign but kept the absolute value. That sort of change can happen when the routing changes. Keep watching and see if it switches back or switches to yet another offset. If you have

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-04 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Two mistakes that I spotted after clicking send... On 5 June 2013 01:57, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves m...@mbg.pt wrote: Hi Chis! I meant Chris of course... sorry about that! I have a week's worth of data know... Take a look at the attached graphics. Not know but now of course... 2 am here

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-06-04 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi Chris! I have a week's worth of data now... Take a look at these graphics http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346508/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/miguelbarbosagoncalves/8955346522/ One of them shows is the plot of the loopstats of my stratum 1 server. The other one

[time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi! Lately I've been using the two stratum 2 servers our national observatory provides to the public mainly as backup for my GPS based local NTP servers. I've always found odd that one of them exhibited an erratic behaviour when compared to the other one. I decided to use ntpdate on one of my

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Jason Rabel
I would do a traceroute and see if the path is the same going to both servers, that can eliminate some variables. Beyond that it would take some detective work on their side. It could be the hardware for each machine is different. Different poll lengths. Different server loads. Different NTP

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Gabs Ricalde
That looks like a server in an room with unstable temperature. Try graphing the server's frequency (ntpq rv or ntpdc loopinfo/kerninfo if enabled on the server), a rising frequency will correlate with a positive offset if that is the case. On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
On 28 May 2013 14:10, Gabs Ricalde gsrica...@gmail.com wrote: That looks like a server in an room with unstable temperature. Try graphing the server's frequency (ntpq rv or ntpdc loopinfo/kerninfo if enabled on the server), a rising frequency will correlate with a positive offset if that is

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves
Hi Jason! On 28 May 2013 13:56, Jason Rabel ja...@extremeoverclocking.com wrote: I would do a traceroute and see if the path is the same going to both servers, that can eliminate some variables. They are on the same network and the path is the same. Beyond that it would take some

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Gabs Ricalde
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:26 PM, Miguel Barbosa Gonçalves m...@mbg.pt wrote: Hi! They've disabled the queries on both servers because I believe that don't want to see how badly they are configured... :-) Regards, Miguel That is better than the one I'm monitoring. They* were running an

Re: [time-nuts] Legal Time dissemination

2013-05-28 Thread Chris Albertson
The stratum 2 servers are by definition not connected to GPS. They get their time from some other NTP server that is connected to an authoritative clock which may or may not be GPS.It looks like the red server has rather smooth swings over around a handful of milliseconds. This is to be