Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-21 Thread Mike S
On 2/19/2014 8:47 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, but the MFJ121 does not display the date and the Lacrosse 8055 and 8016 do not display seconds. I need hour minutes seconds day and date. You wouldn't think that would be so hard. It looks like my only choice is

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 6:18 AM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: However if an iPad is within financial reach and NTP meets the 5071 requirement then Emerald Time may an answer. Emerald Sequoia is invested in horology if

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-21 Thread Paul
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: But as of a few years ago all Apple IOS devices already have NTP built-in. But to conserve battery power NTP is not run very often, just enough to keep the seconds digit read correctly. Seconds! But

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: Of course the products I referred to don't actually run ntpd and they're not disciplining the clock. Much like the titular WWVB Atomic clock they periodically run the equivalent of ntpdate. The problem is that WiFi uses a lot

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Albert
What about converting an 'atomic clock' for this purpose? Bob On Friday, February 21, 2014 4:22 PM, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: Of course the products I referred to don't actually run ntpd and they're

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-20 Thread Hal Murray
rich...@karlquist.com said: I want to use WWVB because I want to be able to mention to visitors that the clock links to an ensemble of 5071A cesium standards, and I was one of the designers of the 5071A, the actual atomic clock. ... Neat. What does the Air Force use as a reference for GPS?

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-20 Thread Clint Turner
Other than WWVB-based frequency references/clocks that lock onto the 60 kHz carrier itself, I'm not aware of any WWVB-based clocks that were the slightest-bit affected by format change (e.g. the addition of the low-rate BPSK): Please point me to any references to the contrary if you find

[time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Can anyone recommend a atomic wall clock that displays in digital 24 hour UTC? Looking for largest possible digits and LED preferred over LCD, under $100. Any brands to avoid? Rick ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Larry McDavid
Most of the atomic WWVB clocks cannot be set to zero time zone offset. After considerable looking, I found one that can be set to GMT with DST disabled. Look for this one: Lacrosse Technology Model WS-8016U It also has local and RF remote temperature. I got mine at Fry's Electronics, several

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Tim Shoppa
LaCrosse 8055 is one of the few wall clocks I know that allows UTC time zone to be selected. BTW, I have a Casio Waveceptor watch (the cheap $30 one) and it works excellently, always acquiring WWVB signal at midnight to 2 AM here on East Coast. On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Richard (Rick)

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Richard Solomon
I bought the MFJ 121-B. Not LED, but I wasn't looking for that option. 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 2/19/2014 4:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Can anyone recommend a atomic wall clock that displays in digital 24 hour UTC? Looking for largest possible digits and LED preferred over LCD, under

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Alex Pummer
Radio Shack used to have one, they may still have it, I have one, it works fine it has cca 2 tall numbers for the time, and 0.75 tall for the datum and temperature, Fries Electronics is selling one for USD35.-- also 73 KJ6UJH Alex On 2/19/2014 4:10 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: LaCrosse 8055 is

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Thanks for the suggestions, but the MFJ121 does not display the date and the Lacrosse 8055 and 8016 do not display seconds. I need hour minutes seconds day and date. You wouldn't think that would be so hard. It looks like my only choice is this smallish wall clock (more like a desk clock):

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Robert Watzlavick
Definitely avoid BRG clocks. They are reasonably priced and look really nice on the outside but look like a high school science project inside. Plus, with both versions I purchased (while at 2 different companies), the IRIG-B option just didn't work reliably. It worked some of the time,

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Michael Perrett
I recently bought a La Crosse, See at ebay item 360752857574, that quickly synced up to WWVB and, at least to my ability to mark a time tick, been within the second of WWV. Total cost was $43. Michael / K7HIL On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a atomic wall clock that displays in digital 24 hour UTC? Any reason why it was to by WWVB? What if it used some other means of saying accurate? The larger professional quality

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 2/19/2014 6:35 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a atomic wall clock that displays in digital 24 hour UTC? Any reason why it was to by WWVB? What if it used some other means of saying

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
CORRECTION: The 8005 series (with indoor temperature) does not support GMT Only the 8115 and 8119 series (with indoor and outdoor temperature) support GMT. On 2/19/2014 5:47 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: so hard. It looks like my only choice is this smallish wall clock (more like a

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for WWVB digital wall clock with digital 24 hour UTC display

2014-02-19 Thread Andy
Rick wrote: Thanks for the suggestions, but the MFJ121 does not display the date The MFJ-121 might not include the date, but some of their other large WWVB clocks do. Go to http://www.mfjenterprises.com/Categories.php?sec=226(clock products) and click on the ones that say ATOMIC. I am not