Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system (Bob Camp)

2014-10-31 Thread n2lym
I have modified Ulrich's executable for the Z3811 and it works fine. 
Email me if you want a copy. Does anyone have pinout information for 
these?



Mike

73 DE N2LYM





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Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:49:06 -0400
From: Bob Camp To: Discussion of precise time and frequency 
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system
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Hi

I wonder if anybody has a copy of Ulrich’s source code? If so, there 
might be somebody on the list willing to rework it for the 3810 series 
and the more modern operating systems.


Bob


On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Götz Romahn  wrote:

and here comes another trick:
Ulrich's Z38XX can be persuaded to accept the Z3811 instead of an 
Z3805.
For this to happen search with an Hex-editor in Z38XX twice for the 
string z3805 and replace this z3805 with z3811, save the changes and 
enjoy the various Views Ulrich provided.

Götz


Am 30.10.2014 18:13, :

Just a hint: I tried successfully Ulrichs Z38XX software
(http://www.ulrich-bangert.de/html/downloads.html)
in Windows7-32. At least the Manual Command Entry and the Debug
Window should work.
regards Götz



Am 29.10.2014 23:55, :

Hi

One thing that might help others who are having issues with these 
units:


Which pins did power go to?

Which pins do you see RX (and maybe TX) data on?

Which cables went where (and their pinout) to interconnect this or 
that?


What software are you using?

Yes, One could make some pretty quick guesses at most of this. It’s
often a quick guess gone wrong that messes people up …

Bob

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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system (Bob Camp)

2014-10-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

Since you asked, pinouts:

Standard numbering on all connectors. The P connector is numbered “backwards” 
from the J connectors as viewed from the front of the unit. If that does not 
make sense, check a DB-9-M and DB-9-F diagram. The numbers are on the parts in 
*really* small print if you really want to go crazy.

P1, Power

pin 1 + supply into the unit
pin 2 supply return out of the unit
all other pins - no connect

Supply is 18 to 36V. After warmup the pair of units pull about 1A at 28V. At 
turn on they pull more than 2A. The supply inputs are fully floating at DC 
relative to the chassis.

J8 - Diagnostics 

Pins 3 and 7 ground
Pin 4 RX+
Pin 8 RX-
Pin 5 TX+
Pin 9 TX-
all others no connect

J6 PPS

Pins 3 and 7 ground
Pin 4 RX+
Pin 8 RX-
Pin 5 TX+
Pin 9 TX-
Pin 1 PPS+
Pin 6 PPS -
all others no connect

J3 Alarm 

all pins no connect

All signals for RX and TX are RS-422. Data on J8 is at 9600 baud 8N1. RX is  
into the box, TX is out of the box.

Data format on the Diag connector looks like the older RFTG’s:

byteuse values
1   talker  0 = ref 0, 1 = ref 1
2   status  0 = active, 1 = inactive
4   mode0 = warmup, 1 = gps, 2 = holdover, 3 = 
fault
9,10timehours in this mode
11 to 18GPS timeseconds since GPS start in 1980
19 to 22FirmwareRom version
23,23   checksum

The string starts with a :  
All the bytes not listed above read as zero

No idea about the diag port. I haven’t gotten that far.

One hint:

If you have “GPS” trouble on the slave unit, wiggle the interface cable. 
Apparently the 15 year old cable contacts aren’t quite as shiny as they should 
be.

Bob






 On Oct 31, 2014, at 2:09 PM, n2lym n2...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 I have modified Ulrich's executable for the Z3811 and it works fine. Email me 
 if you want a copy. Does anyone have pinout information for these?
 
 
 Mike
 
 73 DE N2LYM
 
 
 
 
 Message: 1
 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 21:49:06 -0400
 From: Bob Camp To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
  
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A,
  Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system
 Message-ID: 7c7537c3-d3cb-490f-99f3-d54af04e9...@n1k.org
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
 
 Hi
 
 I wonder if anybody has a copy of Ulrich’s source code? If so, there might 
 be somebody on the list willing to rework it for the 3810 series and the 
 more modern operating systems.
 
 Bob
 
 On Oct 30, 2014, at 1:25 PM, Götz Romahn  wrote:
 
 and here comes another trick:
 Ulrich's Z38XX can be persuaded to accept the Z3811 instead of an Z3805.
 For this to happen search with an Hex-editor in Z38XX twice for the string 
 z3805 and replace this z3805 with z3811, save the changes and enjoy the 
 various Views Ulrich provided.
 Götz
 
 
 Am 30.10.2014 18:13, :
 Just a hint: I tried successfully Ulrichs Z38XX software
 (http://www.ulrich-bangert.de/html/downloads.html)
 in Windows7-32. At least the Manual Command Entry and the Debug
 Window should work.
 regards Götz
 
 
 
 Am 29.10.2014 23:55, :
 Hi
 
 One thing that might help others who are having issues with these units:
 
 Which pins did power go to?
 
 Which pins do you see RX (and maybe TX) data on?
 
 Which cables went where (and their pinout) to interconnect this or that?
 
 What software are you using?
 
 Yes, One could make some pretty quick guesses at most of this. It’s
 often a quick guess gone wrong that messes people up …
 
 Bob
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Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361, HP/Symmetricom Z3809A, Z3810A, Z3811A, Z3812A GPSDO system (Bob Camp)

2014-10-31 Thread Mike S

On 10/31/2014 6:14 PM, Bob Camp wrote:

check a DB-9-M and DB-9-F


ITYM DE-9-P and DE-9-S.

Sorry, it's a pet peeve. 'taint no such thing as a DB-9, and the 
gender is Pin or Socket because male and female are ambiguous given the 
physical construction.

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