catastrophically
fails. I think government oversight is far to often an illusion.
Thomas Knox
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:51:49 -0500
From: n...@verizon.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign
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From: n...@verizon.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign nearby
indicating an
underground high pressure gas transmission line. These days they're
probably
removing
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 00:51:49 -0500
From: n...@verizon.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign nearby
indicating an
underground high pressure gas transmission line. These days they're
...@verizon.net
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign nearby
indicating an
underground high pressure gas transmission line. These days they're
probably
removing the signs.
Let's hope
This discussion is all very nice, but what possible relationship does it have
to time-nuts?
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net wrote:
This discussion is all very nice, but what possible relationship does it
have to time-nuts?
Quartz crystals. Let's just say that it morphed from a discussion into a
meta-discussion. :-)
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On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
So throw caution to the wind because other things kill people? 100% of
people die from something. So we shouldn't try to keep from killing
bystanders because they are going to die anyway? Sounds a bit sociopathic
to
9:30 AM
To: Bill Dailey
Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
It's a matter of perception of risk.
Opponents of nuclear power have successfully propagandized risks out of all
proportion compared to other risks
Quartz crystals. Let's just say that it morphed from a discussion into a
meta-discussion. :-)
Let's just say that it's morphed from something relevant into a political
argument and drop it, shall we?
Bob
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killed in quartz crystal accident
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign nearby indicating an
underground high pressure gas transmission line. These days they're probably
removing the signs.
Let's hope the government doesn't decide that precise timekeeping is of
strategic value
It was as if a seed crystal was placed in an environment conducive to that
crystal growing. In this case there has been a good deal of contamination
particles embedded in the growth.
On 11/26/2013 9:47 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Bob Stewart b...@evoria.net
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Brooke Clarke
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 12:49 AM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
Hi:
Just North of me there's a museum that has working live steam boilers
If you really want to lose sleep, think about those old rusty 24 inch
gas mains running under your neighborhood like in San Bruno California.
The warning signs were present there as well.
Now thanks to Homeland Security you can't find accurate gas transmission
maps on-line unless you are
I oncecancelled my purchase of a home when I found a sign nearby indicating an
underground high pressure gas transmission line. These days they're probably
removing the signs.
Let's hope the government doesn't decide that precise timekeeping is of
strategic value and not permitted amongst
On 11/24/2013 08:43 AM, Robert Atkinson wrote:
The US Chemical Safety Board have released their report into the 2009
accident at NDK's synthetic crystal growing facility in Belvidere IL
http://www.csb.gov/assets/1/19/CSB_CaseStudy_NDK_1107_500PM.pdf
It also describes the process.
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The US Chemical Safety Board
This is not as far from time-nutty things as it might appear.
NDK makes precision crystal oscillators from those crystals. One of them
is an OCXO less than an inch (20 mm) square and half that high with
stability of 3x10E-9 over the range of -40 to 85 C. Annual drift is
typically 50x10E-9. The
Hi
NDK has multiple plants growing quartz around the world. They also have a
number of competitors in that business. There are better places than NDK to buy
high end bars.
Bob
On Nov 24, 2013, at 7:00 PM, Bill Hawkins b...@iaxs.net wrote:
This is not as far from time-nutty things as it
I am a chemical engineer and am quite frankly appalled that this kind of
high pressure process would be done in such proximity to innocents.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote:
Hi
NDK has multiple plants growing quartz around the world. They also have a
number of
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
I am a chemical engineer and am quite frankly appalled that this kind of
high pressure process would be done in such proximity to innocents.
It was pure luck, or chance, that the NDK office building did not have
injuries.
Hi
Well, let’s see, nearest operational facility is about 6 miles away down in the
middle of town over by the High School. It’s been there since the 1950’s. There
used to be a few more around here, since shut down.
Bob
On Nov 24, 2013, at 8:10 PM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
I
I have operated nuclear plants... I would rather sleep 40 feet from a
nuclear plant rather than 1000 feet from a 30,000 pound pressure vessel.
The pressure vessel has a much higher likelihood of releasing tremendous
potential energy.
I am not talking about wilderness... but less than 1000 feet
Maybe the penalty for not following engineering guidelines resulting in injury
or death is to require the offending company to relocate their plants to more
remote locations.
On 11/24/2013 8:40 PM, Sanjeev Gupta wrote:
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi
They’ve been doing it for over 50 years. The early vessels were surplus from
the Navy. They no longer needed as many of them to mount in turrets on
battleships and heavy cursers …
Bob
On Nov 24, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Bill Dailey docdai...@gmail.com wrote:
I have operated nuclear plants... I
Nevertheless, 29,000 PSI at 700 F is pretty serious so at the very least they
should have exercised due diligence and paid attention to the recommendations of
the subject matter experts. They didn't and it bit them pretty seriously.
On 11/24/2013 10:45 PM, Bob Camp wrote:
Hi
They’ve been
n...@verizon.net said:
Maybe the penalty for not following engineering guidelines resulting in
injury or death is to require the offending company to relocate their
plants to more remote locations.
This is getting way off topic for time-nuts.
I've seen comments/postings about managers for
Hi:
Just North of me there's a museum that has working live steam boilers and many
engines.
Every year they pressure test everything carrying steam prior to the annual
steam up.
The test is simply to fill the boiler (or other equipment) with water in such a way that there is no trapped air and
, 2013 22:49
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Man killed in quartz crystal accident
Hi:
Just North of me there's a museum that has working live steam
boilers and many engines.
Every year they pressure test everything carrying steam prior
The US Chemical Safety Board have released their report into the 2009 accident
at NDK's synthetic crystal growing facility in Belvidere IL
http://www.csb.gov/assets/1/19/CSB_CaseStudy_NDK_1107_500PM.pdf
It also describes the process.
Basically a 50ft autoclave failed, killing a member of the
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