Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-12 Thread mc235960
Le 12 nov. 2013 à 03:13, Chris Albertson a écrit : You want to drive the RTC with an external PPS to get time/date into an Arduino? Why not feed the PPS to the Arduino and have it compute date and time? It is really not that hard to count seconds. You don't really need an external chip to

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-12 Thread Russ Ramirez
hmur...@megapathdsl.net said: A 32 KHz clock is also useful for running (well, crawling) in low power mode. That can be important when running off batteries. I suspect the reason that chips don't have an option to drive the RTC from a 1 PPS input is that there is no volume in that corner

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-12 Thread Russ Ramirez
Thanks for the input all, I think the target market for what I have in mind is hobbyist more than time nut. I also believe the Sparkfun product I originally pointed to is an example of a mass market offering that is 'good enough' for almost anyone. There is a small niche of those wanting to use

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-12 Thread Bob Stewart
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Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-12 Thread Dan Kemppainen
The microchip pics on the bench here actually have the oscillators in them for the 32Khz xtal. That is, the gain and feedback to make the crystal run are in them. All that is needed is some capacitance to ground. This is why the SOSC (Secondary Oscillator) uses two pins. You can also use a single

[time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Russ Ramirez
I'm thinking of doing a breakout board similar to this one http://bit.ly/1buC4ZD for the subject Maxim chip. Why? you may ask. Unlike many other RTC chips, this one supports a 1 PPS drive. The specs are here http://bit.ly/1eE5vh1 on the Maxim site. There seems to be considerable interest in

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Didier Juges
You want to drive the RTC with an external PPS to get time/date into an Arduino? Why not feed the PPS to the Arduino and have it compute date and time? It is really not that hard to count seconds. You don't really need an external chip to do that. Didier KO4BB Russ Ramirez

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Russ Ramirez
Hi Didier, True this could be done in SW, and I should have mentioned that I considered that in my post. However, these chips offer several other functions that would add complexity to the code, and I've been looking for a reason to do a simple HW project and open source it through OSH Park

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In volume a 32KHz crystal is a sub 5 cent item. In high volume very sub 5 cents. The RTC chips are *way* more expensive. Bob On Nov 11, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Russ Ramirez russ.rami...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Didier, True this could be done in SW, and I should have mentioned that I considered

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Chris Albertson
You want to drive the RTC with an external PPS to get time/date into an Arduino? Why not feed the PPS to the Arduino and have it compute date and time? It is really not that hard to count seconds. You don't really need an external chip to do that. Typically you need more fine time

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread paul swed
Because the 32Khz xtals are profoundly cheap and accurate to some extent. Long divide by 2 chain is very simple. The xtal could be easily adjusted close to the correct frequency. It all sort of came from watch technology. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Russ Ramirez

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
From: Russ Ramirez russ.rami...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342 Hi Didier, ...Looking across the TI and Microchip lines a bit, it strikes me as odd that more micros supporting integrated RTCs actually use

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Hal Murray
russ.rami...@gmail.com said: Looking across the TI and Microchip lines a bit, it strikes me as odd that more micros supporting integrated RTCs actually use two I/Os for a 32 kHz crystal option. Why they support an RTC is not mysterious at all, but why not the option at to drive the 1 Hz clock

Re: [time-nuts] Maxim DS1342

2013-11-11 Thread Didier Juges
Hi Russ, I will venture that the vast majority of applications are served with 2 pins and a $0.10 crystal rather than the external silicon implied by a 1Hz input. The advantage of off-chip timekeeping is the low power consumption of dedicated RTC chips that makes them able to run from a coin