[time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Burt I. Weiner
I'm sure most of this group has seen the information put out by NIST regarding the changes to the WWVB format. But, for those who may not yet have seen this, here's a link to it:

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Tom Miller
See: http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/upload/1424.pdf Re. GPS traceable to NIST. - Original Message - From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most of this group has seen

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Bob Camp
, September 26, 2012 11:49 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most of this group has seen the information put out by NIST regarding the changes to the WWVB format. But, for those who may not yet have seen this, here's a link to it: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
- Original Message - From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most of this group has seen the information put out by NIST regarding the changes to the WWVB format. But, for those who may

[time-nuts] New WWVB Format...

2012-09-26 Thread Burt I. Weiner
WWVB format... See: http://www.nist.gov/calibrations/upload/1424.pdf Re. GPS traceable to NIST. - Original Message - From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:49 AM Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread paul swed
the G2G (GPS to GOES) translator worked. Extra credit for adding back the 45 degree hourly phase shift. /tvb - Original Message - From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
- From: Burt I. Weiner b...@att.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:49 AM Subject: [time-nuts] New WWVB format... I'm sure most of this group has seen the information put out by NIST regarding the changes to the WWVB format. But, for those who may not yet have seen

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:13:22AM -0700, Tom Van Baak wrote: My reading of the document(s) is that the new format will in fact allow WWVB to be used as a frequency standard with even greater precision then before, though not with unmodified legacy WWVB carrier receivers. My hope is that

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Chris Albertson
DSP would be good, although I also think an microcontroller implementation could be interesting. Atmel's ARM MCUs look like they'd be good candidates for this sort of thing. The first stepis to simply use a regular PC, maybe running Linux. This is the easiest and fastest platform to

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Don Latham
This is a job for Raspberry Pi... Don Majdi S. Abbas On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:13:22AM -0700, Tom Van Baak wrote: My reading of the document(s) is that the new format will in fact allow WWVB to be used as a frequency standard with even greater precision then before, though not with

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:38:10AM -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: The first stepis to simply use a regular PC, maybe running Linux. This is the easiest and fastest platform to develop on. It gets harder and takes longer if you use a smaller and more esoteric platform like a DSP or FPGA. Using

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Majdi S. Abbas m...@latt.net wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 11:38:10AM -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: The first stepis to simply use a regular PC, maybe running Linux. This is the easiest and fastest platform to develop on. It gets harder and takes longer if

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 26 Sep, 2012, at 11:19 , Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:13:22AM -0700, Tom Van Baak wrote: My reading of the document(s) is that the new format will in fact allow WWVB to be used as a frequency standard with even greater precision then before, though not with

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread paul swed
Might be a bit of a cost. The SDR runs $1495. Regards Paul On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Dennis Ferguson dennis.c.fergu...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 Sep, 2012, at 11:19 , Majdi S. Abbas wrote: On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:13:22AM -0700, Tom Van Baak wrote: My reading of the document(s) is

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Dennis Ferguson
On 26 Sep, 2012, at 14:43 , paul swed wrote: Might be a bit of a cost. The SDR runs $1495. Regards Paul The ones with the clock input options (the SDR-IP and the NetSDR, I think) are significantly more than that. But they are also huge overkill if all you want is a digital LF receiver.

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread paul swed
Hmmm SDR. Does that mean spensive darn radio? Joking aside its clearly massive overkill. The rf front end is very reasonable and 3-4 stages of opamps like the TL08X class will do a very fine job and you can even use stages as active bandpass filters etc. Have built a few over the last 6 months.

Re: [time-nuts] New WWVB format...

2012-09-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 09/26/2012 07:13 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: For those of you who don't dare click on encrypted Yahoo URL's, the original NIST link is: http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/upload/NIST-Enhanced-WWVB-Broadcast-Format-sept-2012-Radio-Station-staff.pdf Burt, My reading of the document(s) is that