Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Rasputin Novgorod
There is such a thing like personal responsibility, even without a constitutional right to bear guns :-) Actually, it is a constitutional Right to bare Arms. This has been much missunderstood. The constitution was being hammered out during a very hot summer. The conservatives where insisting

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Chuck Harris
Rasputin Novgorod wrote: There is such a thing like personal responsibility, even without a constitutional right to bear guns :-) Actually, it is a constitutional Right to bare Arms. This has been much missunderstood. The constitution was being hammered out during a very hot summer. The

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Rasputin Novgorod wrote: But seriously, why are you dragging your misinformed opinions into time-nuts (even if you intended it as a joke)? Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness in earnest shows how

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Rob Kimberley
:-) Rob K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Poul-Henning Kamp Sent: 17 January 2007 20:49 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-17 Thread Jack Hudler
: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Rasputin Novgorod wrote: But seriously, why are you dragging your misinformed opinions into time-nuts (even if you intended it as a joke)? Taking fun as simply fun and earnestness

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-16 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
. Gerald - Original Message - From: Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Chuck

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-16 Thread David Forbes
At 9:06 PM -0500 1/15/07, Chuck Harris wrote: Michael Sokolov wrote: Hello again, Thanks to everyone who has replied to my query! I have a few additional questions though: 1. What about the tin whiskers? Will they be eliminated by using SnPb solder, or will they always remain a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread John Miles
not the end of the world. -- john, KE5FX -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael Sokolov Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:52 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap Hello time-nuts, Sorry for the off-topic post

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Michael, RoHS parts usually solder nicely with normal 63/37 solder. They will dilute the solder alloy slightly, but that usually is of no concern. The big problem with RoHS parts is they don't age well on the shelf. I have found that over time, they will not take solder as quickly as when

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Daun Yeagley
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap Hi Michael, RoHS parts usually solder nicely with normal 63/37 solder. They will dilute the solder alloy slightly, but that usually is of no concern. The big problem with RoHS parts is they don't age well on the shelf. I have found that over time

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck Harris
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap Hi Michael, RoHS parts usually solder nicely with normal 63/37 solder. They will dilute the solder alloy slightly, but that usually is of no concern. ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Chuck, from a manufacturer's perspective: 1) Test MEasurement electronics are exempt at least until 2009, maybe until 2011 or longer. Good for us, we can keep using the good old Pb. 2) Consumer products reliability just took a steep dive due to tin whiskers causing shorts in

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread John Miles
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:38 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap Especially when you consider the amount of lead that will enter the environment when a single automotive

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Sorry, incoming rant: Especially when you consider the amount of lead that will enter the environment when a single automotive battery (which are not subject to RoHS, by the way) is improperly dumped. Automotive batteries are subject to

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Rob Kimberley
RoHS = yet another wacky EU Directive. Why did we ever join this nonsense?? Rob K - (in UK) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sokolov Sent: 15 January 2007 18:52 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap Hello time

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Michael Sokolov
Hello again, Thanks to everyone who has replied to my query! I have a few additional questions though: 1. What about the tin whiskers? Will they be eliminated by using SnPb solder, or will they always remain a potential problem when one is forced to use a Pb-free part? 2. Several people have

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Sorry, incoming rant: Especially when you consider the amount of lead that will enter the environment when a single automotive battery (which are not subject to RoHS, by the way) is improperly dumped.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Chuck Harris
Michael Sokolov wrote: Hello again, Thanks to everyone who has replied to my query! I have a few additional questions though: 1. What about the tin whiskers? Will they be eliminated by using SnPb solder, or will they always remain a potential problem when one is forced to use a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: RoHS crap

2007-01-15 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chuck Harris writes: Chuck, you are entitled to your opinions, but some of your assumptions indicate that you havn't been in Europe for any amount of time, so I'll just correct those of of your mistakes that applies to over here: Oh darn! Another toothless