Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-15 Thread J. L. Trantham
: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 12:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? I stayed out as well. I didn't want to get

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-14 Thread Nathaniel Bezanson
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? Hi Luis No problem, and it's much better anyway to hear from someone who's used it:-) I only took a quick look at the web site before and didn't see the self build instructions at that time, but having seen the SMD

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-14 Thread J. L. Trantham
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bezanson Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:55 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? I always feel guilty replying

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-14 Thread gary
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Bezanson Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:55 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? I always feel guilty replying to off-topic threads, but this one just got

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-13 Thread J. L. Trantham
-Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of gandal...@aol.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 5:38 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? Hi Luis No problem, and it's much

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-13 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Joe, I just did a quick search and found that the BP-1600 uses EPP (Enhanced Parallel Port) protocol on the parallel port rather than using the port like a GPIO port. Since this is a higher-level bidirectional protocol, it should be easier to find a USB converter that will work. Look for

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-12 Thread Hal Murray
rich...@karlquist.com said: I have an HP laptop with docking station and the docking station provides serial and parallel ports. The question is: are these real ports (just like built ins) or do they behave as USB dongle versions? One could easily imagine that the docking station did

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-12 Thread ct1dmk
My impression is that old software that make their own timings and devices depend on those timings may have issues due to the fact that there is a delay from write to LPT to bits really appearing on the DB25, albeit small but not that much predictable as it has Windows plus USB in between. That

[time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
Not sure where to ask this question but thought I would start here. Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 018101cdeffc$d5239b50$7f6ad1f0$@att.net, J. L. Trantham writes: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Yes, USB to LPT adapters are a comodity item, although I suspect they are getting a bit of old stuff we no longer carry these days. You should be

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread shalimr9
. Trantham jlt...@att.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 7:09 AM Subject: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? Not sure where to ask this question but thought I would start here. Is there a way to connect

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Nathaniel Bezanson
J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel Port adapters but I have never found a USB

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread J. L. Trantham
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? Joe, It just so happen I have a never used USB-printer port adapter (with the Centronics connector). There is no driver for it, I believe the driver comes with Windows. You are welcome to it. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
Dear Joe, Be aware, the parallel printer ports are not a substitute for the LPT port! My experience is that only two things work: 1. A PCI card in your PC to add a LPT port (cost around 15 Euro) 2. Homebrew LPT ports. If my memory serves me well there was a design in the June or July/August

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 1/11/13 7:00 AM, Nathaniel Bezanson wrote: J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I have been able to do it via PCMCIA to Parallel Port

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread paul swed
As mentioned the real answer is no unfortunately. I used to use raw printer bits for all kinds of stuff. Not anymore. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 1/11/13 7:00 AM, Nathaniel Bezanson wrote: J. L. Trantham wrote: Is there a way

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Alan Melia
on their web site I think. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 1:09 PM Subject: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? Not sure where

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: My goal is to connect a parallel port chip programmer via USB but the software only looks for LPT ports. It works with PCMCIA to parallel port adapters but I haven't solved the puzzle yet with a USB connected device. I

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Joe As per other replies I was going to suggest this won't work because USB adapters are for printing only and my solution would be to buy an old 486 or early pentium laptop and use that, I've bought several over the past few years for really silly money on Ebay for this very reason,

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Spencer
Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. As others have mentioned there are fairly recent IBM / Lenovo laptops that also featured

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Jim Stephens
On 1/11/2013 8:46 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 5:09 AM, J. L. Trantham jlt...@att.net wrote: My goal is to connect a parallel port chip programmer via USB but the software only looks for LPT ports. It works with PCMCIA to parallel port adapters but I haven't solved the

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David McGaw
I have looked into this at length without success. It appears that the parallel port was orphaned in the USB definition and an emulation can only support printers. Scanners, software key dongles and other parallel port devices are not and apparently cannot be supported. An adapter may say

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Rick Karlquist
Mark Spencer wrote: Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. As others have mentioned there are fairly recent IBM / Lenovo

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David McGaw
Those should be real ports. They probably connect through the PCI buss as a PCMCIA card would. For those looking to PCMCIA/Card Bus, be careful. There ARE cheap cards that connect through USB rather than PCI. The true PCI cards DO work. David On 1/11/13 2:42 PM, Rick Karlquist wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mark Spencer mspencer12...@yahoo.cawrote: Joe: I've been down this road and ended up buying two lease return HP desktops for a nominal price that included on board parallel ports to deal with some amateur radio gear required a real parallel port. I bought

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 1/11/2013 7:09 AM, J. L. Trantham wrote: Not sure where to ask this question but thought I would start here. Is there a way to connect a parallel port to a computer via USB? Not a device that shows up as 'USB Print Support' but, instead, shows up in Device Manager as an LPT port? I

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Bob Camp
, January 11, 2013 2:23 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist? I have looked into this at length without success. It appears that the parallel port was orphaned in the USB definition and an emulation can only support

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Yes it exists, and does exactly what you want: your applications see a 'real' LPT port that you can write/read at low level like it was a real hardware port. It has a DB25 connector on the end. I have two of them, they work great. I tried old prom programmers and lots of small PLL loaders etc

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread David
My solution was similar. I have a few old systems that work fine and have serial and parallel ports. For my more recent workstations, I add a PCI or PCIe serial/parallel port adapter if needed. On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 12:03:48 -0500 (EST), gandal...@aol.com wrote: Hi Joe As per other replies I

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Hi Nigel, I missed your post before my reply to Joe, so I made no mention to your suggestion. I have those and they are not a printer thing, they really work low level. The list of programmers and bit oriented stuff that was reported to work well is big and surely there are more stuff that

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread ct1dmk
Yes, there are standard devices that do this. $10 from Newegg if you are in the US (and it looks like you are.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812186125nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwordscm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-_-pla-_-NA-_-NAgclid=CPGX2bqK4bQCFemiPAodDXcAzQ I've tested a few

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist ?

2013-01-11 Thread Mark Spencer
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Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread GandalfG8
Hi Luis No problem, and it's much better anyway to hear from someone who's used it:-) I only took a quick look at the web site before and didn't see the self build instructions at that time, but having seen the SMD chip he's using I think asking for a price might be safer:-) I see from

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Ed Palmer
A couple of years ago I bought an Intel Atom Dual Core board. It's equipped with 2 com ports and 1 LPT port. A quick check at Newegg.com shows that most, but not all, Atom boards (regardless of brand) still include one or two COM ports and 1 LPT port. So, for somewhere around $100 or less

Re: [time-nuts] OT - USB to LPT Adapter - Does it exist?

2013-01-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think the answer to the Atom puzzle is that the standard Southbridge chip has an LPT port in it. More or less they get it for the price of the connector or board header plus maybe a few protection devices. Bob On Jan 11, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Ed Palmer ed_pal...@sasktel.net wrote: A couple