Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
nal Apple I built by Jobs & Wozniak. They also > > have Robert Moog's prototype music synthesizer. Might be time to > > interest them in adding precision time to their clock and technology > > collections. > > > > Bob LaJeunesse > > > >> Sent: Fri

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-21 Thread Bill Byrom
> interest them in adding precision time to their clock and technology > collections. > > Bob LaJeunesse > >> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM From: "Bill Hawkins" >> To: "'Tom Van Baak'" , >> "'Discussion of

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-20 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
ay, March 20, 2015 at 1:33 AM > From: "Bill Hawkins" > To: "'Tom Van Baak'" , "'Discussion of precise time and > frequency measurement'" > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr > > There are worse things th

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Adrian Godwin writes: >I'd be happy to lend >them to a testgear museum but I don't know of one, at least not in the UK. The age of electronics is just approaching the 50 year cliff where people start to seriously think about preserving their own legacy, and I suspect we wil

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
This stuff is lovely, but it's enthusiast's equipment, not public or commercial museums. There's a great computer museum in Paderborn, Germany - it's owned by the founder of an ATM company. I love that it has, in Germany, a really good exhibit about Bletchley Park. There's a pinball machine museum

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Look at the economics of a museum. Count the heads on the payroll. Count the paying customers you see times the admission fee. At least around here most of them have a budget that looks like: Costs: X Money in from visitors: X/10 Money in from membership fees: X/5 Money from the gift shop: X

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Before the Keysight split, there was an Agilent museum at HQ in Santa Clara. It was packed full of interesting old HP stuff and even had a part time archivist. I'm now retired and don't know what became of this museum in the split. I feel I got out while the getting was good. Rick Karlquist N6R

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Bill Hawkins
There are worse things than breaking up a collection. The Baaken Museum of Electricity in Life, near Minneapolis had a wonderful series of devices that used electricity to examine or prolong life, or to extract money from suckers. About 20 years ago, someone felt that there wasn't enough traffic a

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
> If that is the case, then this stuff belongs to a museum and not on ebay. > IMHO. Hi Attila , I completely understand how you feel, but this happens all the time with niche collections. You just can't find a brick and mortar museum interested in taking all that inventory. How many people wou

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 15:44:07 + "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > > In message , "Tom Van Baak" writes: > > >That is the most stunning collection of old hp gear I've ever seen. > >Given the content, location, and timing it looks to me like it's > >from http://hpmemoryproject.org > >See al

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , "Tom Van Baak" writes: >That is the most stunning collection of old hp gear I've ever seen. >Given the content, location, and timing it looks to me like it's >from http://hpmemoryproject.org >See also http://hpmemoryproject.org/mm_tributes/ >Can anyone confirm? No idea, but

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
al Message - From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr > There is a seller on the french eBay which has some rather old/obscure > HP T/F instruments up cheap: ___

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Adrian Godwin
Thanks for the heads-up. Postage to the UK isn't quite so bad, and he accepted a lower offer .. The list of other items is well worth a scan, too. I don't have a reference setup working yet but if there's anyone near Bedfordshire, UK that would like to do an ADEV plot (just for fun, I'm not expect

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , paul swed writes: >They are interesting the 101 looks pretty nice. Considering the Euro is >just about a dollar today. $83 US. But then you see the shipping! OK time >to move on. Send them a message and ask if cheaper options are availble. Overall I have better than 50% hi

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-18 Thread paul swed
Poul-Henning They are interesting the 101 looks pretty nice. Considering the Euro is just about a dollar today. $83 US. But then you see the shipping! OK time to move on. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > There is a seller on the french eBay which ha

Re: [time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-18 Thread Tom Harris
What beautiful looking instruments. I bet they look just as sexy from behind. Someone should make a coffee table book of glamour shots of old HP gear. I'd buy a copy. Including a gatefold of a full rack, captioned "Nice rack...". Tom Harris On 19 March 2015 at 06:57, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

[time-nuts] Obscure HP T/F instruments in ebay.fr

2015-03-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
There is a seller on the french eBay which has some rather old/obscure HP T/F instruments up cheap: 281603533317 HP K05 5060A Linear Phase Detector 281607493683 HP J19 59992A HP5371A Demonstrator 311298011221 HP 8709A Synchronizer 311307909618 HP 101A 1 MC Highly Stable Quartz Oscillator