Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Hi Brian, On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 00:46 -0500, Brian Kirby wrote: All the antenna's I have played with have been +5 volts for power. Is anyone aware of any other voltages ? (I know Garmin used +3V for some) Antcom antennas are often 2.5V to 24V. Aeroantenna's standard versions eats 5V to 18V.

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge rectifier before the amplifier's power stuff, allowing for either

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Steve Rooke
2008/10/23 Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge rectifier before the

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/21/08 9:31 PM, Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same polarity. all my trimbles and oncores have +5 on center, ground on shield... I'd be

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Steve Rooke wrote: 2008/10/23 Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Lux, James P wrote: On 10/21/08 9:31 PM, Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same polarity. all my trimbles and oncores have +5 on center, ground on

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/22/08 6:04 AM, Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Lux, James P
On 10/22/08 7:20 AM, Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lux, James P wrote: On 10/21/08 9:31 PM, Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Van Baak wrote: Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Lux, James P wrote: ... But not so trivial to provide the DC blocks in the ground side of the coax. The LNA is almost certainly some MMIC with RF ground==Vss Not any worse than providing the DC block on the center of the coax. There is a significantly different EMI/EMC impact for breaking

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Lux, James P wrote: That's really kind of funny, in 29 years as an engineer, I have never had an accountant talk to me about design decisions. I tell them what it will cost, and they say ok. Lucky you... Not luck, but a conscious decision to stay out of consumer electronics. I could

[time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Hi Folks Finally got the builder here who is going to put my GPS antennae up on the roof. I don't have the hardware set up to connect my Trimble Ace II modules to anything but want to test the cables that I have made up here in my office. Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same polarity. The Motorola has 5V on the core of the coax - does anyone know if the Trimble ones do the

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Chris Kuethe: all my trimbles and oncores have +5 on center, ground on shield... Thanks Chris. I had guessed that would be the case and was on the verge of doing a test but decided at the last minute better safe than sorry. And the Trimble antenna works just fine on the Oncore. The

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Tom Van Baak
Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same polarity. all my trimbles and oncores have +5 on center, ground on shield... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Chuck Harris
Tom Van Baak wrote: Both the Trimble and Motorola modules use active antennae with 5V power - what I don't know is whether they are the same polarity. all my trimbles and oncores have +5 on center, ground on shield... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never even considered that. It would have been fairly trivial for them to put a bridge rectifier before the amplifier's power stuff, allowing for either polarity. I

Re: [time-nuts] Oncore, Trimble Antennae

2008-10-21 Thread Brian Kirby
All the antenna's I have played with have been +5 volts for power. Is anyone aware of any other voltages ? (I know Garmin used +3V for some) Matthew Smith wrote: Quoth Chuck Harris at 2008-10-22 15:01... I'd be interested to know if any antennas are in fact the other way around. Never