Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
Rick Karlquist wrote: If you want to get technical, the frequency of a cesium standard also depends on the gravitational acceleration, but for relativistic reasons, not newtonian physics. Any decent cesium is accurate enough that it will noticably speed up at NIST in Boulder. NIST's best

[time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread WarrenS
The time nut post is still discvarding my rants, BUT I do not give up easy, ONE more try to trick it and get it all in. Rick Thanks, Interesting but maybe you have missed my too subtle of a point. Example: Lets say the second is redefined in the future to some new super duper thing that is

Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
** Primary means that the clock will meet its spec without being calibrated against a better clock** From your definition a Rb can be a primary standard for a 1e-6 world and a crystal as well as my wrist watch can be a primary standard in a 1e-3 spec or whatever they can

Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread J. Forster
A REAL primary standard is something that you can assemble the kit of parts anywhere in the Universe, flip the switch, and get exactly the same time interval as anywhere else. That obviously does NOT apply to the pendulum, as it depends on the value of G. -John == I suppose a

Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread Rick Karlquist
If you want to get technical, the frequency of a cesium standard also depends on the gravitational acceleration, but for relativistic reasons, not newtonian physics. Any decent cesium is accurate enough that it will noticably speed up at NIST in Boulder. NIST's best clocks speed up noticibly if

Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread Lux, Jim (337C)
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:43 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again A REAL primary standard is something that you can assemble the kit of parts anywhere in the Universe, flip the switch, and get exactly the same time

Re: [time-nuts] Primary standard again

2010-02-23 Thread David C. Partridge
-nuts] Primary standard again Aren't there relativistic effects on Cs standard frequency because of different gravity? (or is that really, the same frequency, just in a different frame of reference) ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com