Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread Rex

On 7/31/2013 7:06 PM, Dr. Edward H. Currie wrote:

DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


 Does the DW stand for dyslexic writing? :-)

Pretty sure you meant WD-40 as in this link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40



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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread John Marvin
I've found that a lot of sticky things, including sticker glue, is oil 
soluble. So I just use a liberal amount of vegetable oil with a cloth to 
dissolve the stuff and get rid of the goop. Then you are left with an 
oily surface (you probably shouldn't use this method on cloth which 
might be stained by the vegetable oil). The second stage of the process 
then can be a variety of cleaners to remove the liquid oil. Dove 
dishwashing soap can be quite effective. Anyway, this two step process 
works quite well for a lot of things that would take more work scrubbing 
and scraping otherwise. In many cases it does a better job, without 
having to use harsher chemicals.


John

On 7/31/2013 11:12 PM, Don Latham wrote:

I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without
scarring the paint. Of course, if you want provenance and history, leave
'em on :-)
I'm only buying usb new and pre-1930 GR.
Howareya?   Heading for shooting tomorrow and on to see Argus, then to
gun show. Just returned from marrying off step-grandson; Astoria WA.
strange town.
Don

Dr. Edward H. Currie

DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


- Original Message -
From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven
controller schematic



Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

Graham

This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
stuff.

I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols
is
sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
safe on almost all surfaces.

When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label
says
it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
safe on most surfaces.

The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
with adequate ventilation.

And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:

I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of
used
test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint
and
lettering.


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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Second the WD-40 best label adhesive remover - and is so gentle it will leave 
the skin on aluminium..
Just spray it on and let it soak in.

Can also start the lawn mower / Car / Boat with it,
Fix squeaky hinges, lubricate locks..


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Of John Marvin
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 4:29 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller 
schematic

I've found that a lot of sticky things, including sticker glue, is oil soluble. 
So I just use a liberal amount of vegetable oil with a cloth to dissolve the 
stuff and get rid of the goop. Then you are left with an oily surface (you 
probably shouldn't use this method on cloth which might be stained by the 
vegetable oil). The second stage of the process then can be a variety of 
cleaners to remove the liquid oil. Dove dishwashing soap can be quite 
effective. Anyway, this two step process works quite well for a lot of things 
that would take more work scrubbing and scraping otherwise. In many cases it 
does a better job, without having to use harsher chemicals.

John

On 7/31/2013 11:12 PM, Don Latham wrote:
 I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without 
 scarring the paint. Of course, if you want provenance and history, 
 leave 'em on :-) I'm only buying usb new and pre-1930 GR.
 Howareya?   Heading for shooting tomorrow and on to see Argus, then to
 gun show. Just returned from marrying off step-grandson; Astoria WA.
 strange town.
 Don

 Dr. Edward H. Currie
 DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


 - Original Message -
 From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven 
 controller schematic


 Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

 Graham
 This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop 
 from stuff.

 I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols 
 is sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be 
 quite safe on almost all surfaces.

 When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product 
 marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label 
 says it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, 
 Shoe Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried 
 Latex Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much 
 more and is safe on most surfaces.

 The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

 Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger 
 lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used 
 carefully with adequate ventilation.

 And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


 cheers, Graham ve3gtc


 On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:
 I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

 I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another 
 suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of 
 used test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. 
 Seems to loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the 
 panel paint and lettering.

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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread Rex

On 7/31/2013 5:42 PM, Don Latham wrote:

Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.



Goof-off now seems to be a whole family of products. See...
http://www.goofoffproducts.com/
Maybe Heavy Duty Remover or power Cleaner and Degreaser might be the 
best current options.


The one MDS for Goof-off I looked at didn't mention xylene. At least 
here in California, I think law has forced removal of xylene and toluene 
from most products several years back and is tightening more and more. I 
didn't find a good link describing current laws in my searches.


I think the bug and tar remover that I suggested was first formulated 
with either xylene or toluene but the product I have been using for the 
last few years doesn't have either of those VOC's mentioned. Probably 
works less well, but still worked for most of my non-water-based gunk or 
glue removal tasks. My three main go-to's are soap and water, alcohol, 
and the bug and tar, depending on what gunk I am looking at. 
Occasionally I might use acetone, some other hydrocarbon mix, or some of 
the small remaining amount of MEK I bought before it was banned for sale 
here.


But maybe this is all a bit tangential or off-topic for the group.

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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 04:45:14 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote:

Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 109, Issue 2
 
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 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 00:29:06 -0600
 From: John Marvin jm-t...@themarvins.org
 To: time-nuts@febo.com
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven
   controller schematic
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 I've found that a lot of sticky things, including sticker glue, is oil 
 soluble. So I just use a liberal amount of vegetable oil with a cloth to 
 dissolve the stuff and get rid of the goop. Then you are left with an 
 oily surface (you probably shouldn't use this method on cloth which 
 might be stained by the vegetable oil). The second stage of the process 
 then can be a variety of cleaners to remove the liquid oil. Dove 
 dishwashing soap can be quite effective. Anyway, this two step process 
 works quite well for a lot of things that would take more work scrubbing 
 and scraping otherwise. In many cases it does a better job, without 
 having to use harsher chemicals.

What I've always used is cigarette lighter fluid, which is Naptha in a 
convenient little can.

Paint stores carry VMP Naptha, which is basically the same thing, and 
cheaper than lighter fluid.  I refill my lighter fluid cans with VMP 
Naptha.

I'm told that hair spray also works.

Joe Gwinn
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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread Lee Mushel

Gentlemen,

In my home you will find a fair variety of common solvents.  MEK, Toluene 
And Xylene will always be there.   Of course, it is only fair to warn 
everyone that the common industrial manufacture of Toluene and Xylene do not 
remove all of the closely related (chemically) and universally recognized 
carcinogen.   Therefore, use reasonable care and ventilation and not more 
than you have to.   You can't expect the less harmful and more commonly used 
aliphatics like the alcohols, to remove the tarry stuff.   And if you 
don't want to remove your desirable finishes you can go to the chlorinated 
solvents.   But be warned that those are known to cause funny bumps and 
growths in you, too!


But just in case I've scared you off I will finish with a statement that 
when I come in contact with poisonous plant material and begin to itch I 
simply take MEK or Toluene on a paper towel and use it to energetically 
remove the invisible waxy stuff that the plant uses to make sure the 
irritant stays in place and causes the misery of blisters and open sores! 
If you get this done in the itch stage and before the blisters appear you 
will be very pleasantly surprised!   Even my daughter-in-law, who agrees 
with very little I say, admits I'm right about this!


Regards,

Lee Mushel
- Original Message - 
From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
time-nuts@febo.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven 
controller schematic




I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without
scarring the paint 

Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

Graham

This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
stuff.

I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols
is
sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
safe on almost all surfaces.

When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label
says
it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
safe on most surfaces.

The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
with adequate ventilation.

And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:

I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of
used
test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint
and
lettering.



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Ghost in the Shell


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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-08-01 Thread paul swed
Scary stuff. But love the poison answer. Both of those do actually scare me.
Regards
Paul


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Lee Mushel herbe...@centurytel.net wrote:

 Gentlemen,

 In my home you will find a fair variety of common solvents.  MEK, Toluene
 And Xylene will always be there.   Of course, it is only fair to warn
 everyone that the common industrial manufacture of Toluene and Xylene do
 not remove all of the closely related (chemically) and universally
 recognized carcinogen.   Therefore, use reasonable care and ventilation and
 not more than you have to.   You can't expect the less harmful and more
 commonly used aliphatics like the alcohols, to remove the tarry stuff.
 And if you don't want to remove your desirable finishes you can go to the
 chlorinated solvents.   But be warned that those are known to cause funny
 bumps and growths in you, too!

 But just in case I've scared you off I will finish with a statement that
 when I come in contact with poisonous plant material and begin to itch I
 simply take MEK or Toluene on a paper towel and use it to energetically
 remove the invisible waxy stuff that the plant uses to make sure the
 irritant stays in place and causes the misery of blisters and open sores!
 If you get this done in the itch stage and before the blisters appear you
 will be very pleasantly surprised!   Even my daughter-in-law, who agrees
 with very little I say, admits I'm right about this!

 Regards,

 Lee Mushel
 - Original Message - From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven
 controller schematic


  I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without
 scarring the paint 

 Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

 Graham

 This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
 stuff.

 I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols
 is
 sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
 safe on almost all surfaces.

 When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
 marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label
 says
 it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
 Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
 Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
 safe on most surfaces.

 The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

 Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
 lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
 with adequate ventilation.

 And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


 cheers, Graham ve3gtc


 On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:

 I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

 I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
 suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of
 used
 test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
 loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint
 and
 lettering.


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[time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-07-31 Thread Graham

This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from stuff.

I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols is 
sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite 
safe on almost all surfaces.


When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product 
marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label says 
it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe 
Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex 
Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is 
safe on most surfaces.


The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger 
lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully 
with adequate ventilation.


And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:

I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another 
suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of used 
test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to 
loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint and 
lettering.




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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-07-31 Thread Don Latham
Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

Graham
 This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
 stuff.

 I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols is
 sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
 safe on almost all surfaces.

 When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
 marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label says
 it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
 Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
 Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
 safe on most surfaces.

 The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

 Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
 lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
 with adequate ventilation.

 And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


 cheers, Graham ve3gtc


 On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:
 I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

 I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
 suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of used
 test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
 loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint and
 lettering.


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Ghost in the Shell


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Six Mile Systems LLP
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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-07-31 Thread Dr. Edward H. Currie

DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


- Original Message - 
From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement 
time-nuts@febo.com

Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven 
controller schematic




Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

Graham

This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
stuff.

I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols is
sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
safe on almost all surfaces.

When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label says
it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
safe on most surfaces.

The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
with adequate ventilation.

And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:

I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of used
test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint and
lettering.



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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-07-31 Thread Don Latham
I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without
scarring the paint. Of course, if you want provenance and history, leave
'em on :-)
I'm only buying usb new and pre-1930 GR.
Howareya?   Heading for shooting tomorrow and on to see Argus, then to
gun show. Just returned from marrying off step-grandson; Astoria WA.
strange town.
Don

Dr. Edward H. Currie
 DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


 - Original Message -
 From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven
 controller schematic


 Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

 Graham
 This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
 stuff.

 I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols
 is
 sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
 safe on almost all surfaces.

 When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
 marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label
 says
 it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
 Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
 Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
 safe on most surfaces.

 The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

 Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
 lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
 with adequate ventilation.

 And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


 cheers, Graham ve3gtc


 On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:
 I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

 I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
 suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of
 used
 test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
 loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint
 and
 lettering.


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 Ghost in the Shell


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 Six Mile Systems LLP
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Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven controller schematic

2013-07-31 Thread Don Latham
Sorry, all, got a personal mixed in! pls ignore!
Don

Dr. Edward H. Currie
 DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...


 - Original Message -
 From: Don Latham d...@montana.com
 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
 time-nuts@febo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 8:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Removing goop was: =Re: 10811 Outer oven
 controller schematic


 Xylene is availble as goof-off in paint departments.

 Graham
 This has been an interesting discussion on how to remove goop from
 stuff.

 I find that one or the other of the common methyl or ethyl alcohols
 is
 sufficient in many cases to remove goop and has proven to be quite
 safe on almost all surfaces.

 When one of the common alcohols doesn't work I resort to a product
 marketed by Circa 1850 under the name of Super DeGooper. The label
 says
 it Removes these Goops: Oil Crayon, Tar, Marker, Gum, Labels, Shoe
 Polish, Adhesive, Duct Tape, Lipstick, Grease, stickers, Dried Latex
 Paint but in my experience is quite effect on much, much more and is
 safe on most surfaces.

 The caution label indicates that it contains xylene.

 Works for me and when it doesn't I then resort to the much stronger
 lacquer thinner or acetone. All are flammable and are used carefully
 with adequate ventilation.

 And when all else fails, good old scraping is used.


 cheers, Graham ve3gtc


 On 13-07-31 11:15 AM, Rex wrote:
 I suspect by gas he meant gasoline.

 I don't know about what paint remover he meant but I have another
 suggestion that might have worked. For cleaning label gunk off of
 used
 test equipment I have used automotive bug and tar remover. Seems to
 loosen up lots of gunk but not so strong it hurts the panel paint
 and
 lettering.


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 De Erroribus Medicorum, R. Bacon, 13th century.
 If you don't know what it is, don't poke it.
 Ghost in the Shell


 Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
 Six Mile Systems LLP
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 POB 134
 Huson, MT, 59846
 VOX 406-626-4304
 Skype: buffler2
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 www.sixmilesystems.com


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