Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Sims
I set up my ThunderBolt data logger to flag temperature spikes. Over a 10 hour run last night it caught five of them (TOW magnitude): 104416 0.097 deg 104898 0.022 deg 115715 0.087 deg 135298 0.098 deg 138564 0.041 deg

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Dan Rae
Mark Sims wrote: I set up my ThunderBolt data logger to flag temperature spikes. Over a 10 hour run last night it caught five of them (TOW magnitude): 104416 0.097 deg 104898 0.022 deg 115715 0.087 deg 135298 0.098 deg 138564 0.041 deg

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Sims
Yes indeed, those are spikes... and rather big ones at that. They may seem small, but they occur over a one second period. Normally I do not see more than 1 millidegree of change over that time interval. These spikes are 20 to 100 times that. After the spike, the temperature reading

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Dan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a spike? Surely this kind of tiny temperature variation on the unit's board somewhere outside the oven does not have a lot of relevance or effect on anything inside the oven where it is all happening. And what is the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Sims
Looking back through some old logs with my New and Improved Spike Finder (tm), it appears that spikes seem to occur, on average, around every 2-3 hours and their effect shows up in the data for around 20 seconds... so figure on 1 part in 500 of the temperature data is corrupted by their

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Tom Clifton
My own gut feeling is that it is a glitch making its way through one of the power supplies. Its decay looks like it could be capacitive... Pr thermal. or (fill in the blank) I'm using the brick power supply povided and it is possible that they generate transients, or poorly react to normal

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Sims
I have both a red-box unit with the single input power supply (internally it has a ATT DC-DC converter brick and lots of filtering stuff) and two of the three-supply units. All of them show the same temperature glitches. I have had one running off of a Tektronix PS-503A linear lab supply and

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Hal Murray
Looking back through some old logs with my New and Improved Spike Finder (tm), it appears that spikes seem to occur, on average, around every 2-3 hours and their effect shows up in the data for around 20 seconds... so figure on 1 part in 500 of the temperature data is corrupted by their

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-14 Thread Mark Sims
The nature of the spikes are that they show an instantaneous impulse 100mV rise in the temperature readings between two 1 second samples. The rise exists for one sample then decays over around 20 seconds. There is no way that any CPU (or bus) activity can generate a heat pulse that would

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt temperature spikes

2008-07-12 Thread Tom Clifton
I too am seeing them - four or five events during a 24 hour time period. Below are 50 temp readings before and after an event. 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.82 32.83 32.92 32.91 32.90 32.89 32.89 32.88 32.87 32.87 32.87 32.86 32.86 32.85 32.85 32.85 32.85 32.84 32.84 32.84