Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-14 Thread David J Taylor
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a well-known auction site from a weel-know seller fluke.i, at quite a good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be. Any experience? Just to report back that I eventually got round to powering up one of

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-14 Thread Mark Sims
Well, the connector is a standard connector... it's just 2mm/0.070 spacing. I would not trust a dropping resistor. The current consumption on these units does not appear to be constant... the temperature plot varies depending upon what it is doing (i.e. gets warmer when acquiring

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Sam
I don't know what firmware version is in the units fluke.l is selling but after reading a technical bulletin regarding the Resolution T, I wonder if the SMT version is susceptible to the same signal tracking outage every 12.5 minutes bug that the Resolution T firmware previous to 1.17

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, I see that indeed there are different views: in my opinion, for example, it is good that the unit doesn't talk by itself. I prefer to prepare the environment then command the unit to start talk or poll the unit on a cyclic base. I found a Trimble monitor here:

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Hal Murray
Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless for a timing receiver. I can think of a couple of reasons. I'm sure there are more. One would be marketing type

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Rob Kimberley
Sent: 11 May 2012 05:02 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent? Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sims
I like Less than $20... Not for Sale Sounds like vaporcrap to me... - Or 216 channels (GPS L1/L2/L2C/L5; GLONASS L1/L2; Galileo E1/E5A): http://www.javad.com/jgnss/products/triumph.html

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Rob Kimberley
Wasn't this the company that was championing Lightspeed? :-) Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sims Sent: 11 May 2012 12:20 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread shalimr9
Yes, I moved them yesterday Didier KO4BB --Original Message-- From: Mark Sims Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent? Sent: May 10, 2012 11:02 PM Why in the hell would anybody build a 50

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread shalimr9
@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent? Think Galileo, Waas, Glonass, and gps could give you more than 38 sats, over determination will give better results and much faster cold starts without almanac and assist. Waas helps a lot when you run on a Uav

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Sam
I uploaded the FEI-Zyfer WAAS papers to zippyshare if anyone is interested. http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/66696070/file.html Sam. Zyfer produced a paper on WAAS for timing. http://support.fei-zyfer.com/downloads.aspx You will need to create a log-in and password to download their stuff.

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/11/12 4:34 AM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I moved them yesterday Didier KO4BB --Original Message-- From: Mark Sims Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent? Sent: May 10, 2012 11:02

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/11/12 2:38 AM, Hal Murray wrote: Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless for a timing receiver. I can think of a couple of reasons. I'm sure there are

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread bg
On 5/11/12 2:38 AM, Hal Murray wrote: Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless for a timing receiver. I can think of a couple of reasons. I'm sure there are

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-11 Thread Mark Sims
One nasty thing about these receivers is that they seem to be useless as a general purpose GPS receiver. Once they have a saved position (even if you erase the old one) it does not update the lat/lon/alt values (even if you put the receiver into 3D mode). It does not even update

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Sims
As a GPS receiver (12 channel), it seems to be quite good. It is at least 6dB more sensitive than the Thunderbolt. You can also program the PPS output for PP2S (pulse per 2 seconds) ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Holrum, how do you re-configure the SMT unit? Using Trimble GPS studio? Thanks, Said In a message dated 5/9/2012 15:17:21 Pacific Daylight Time, hol...@hotmail.com writes: I have it running now. It turns out that the units from fluke.l come shipped with TEP format messages

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread SAIDJACK
Ok, I figured out that the unit fluke.l sells is running firmware to emulate the Motrola M12+ receiver or similar. So WinOncore 12 does work, and I can get the following receiver ID: COPYRIGHT 2008 Trimble Navigation Ltd. SFTW P/N # SOFTWARE VER # 0.03.0 SOFTWARE REV # 00 SOFTWARE

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Sims
The receivers from fluke.l are the TEP version that emulates Motorola protocols by default. I used Trimble GPS Monitor V1.05 to set it for TSIP. Select the Initialize Menu, Detect Receiver, click TEP protocol button. It then found the receiver and offered to enable it for TSIP. Then

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Azelio Boriani
What's bad with the Motorola binary protocol? In my opinion it is superior to the NMEA one... On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:55 PM, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Ok, I figured out that the unit fluke.l sells is running firmware to emulate the Motrola M12+ receiver or similar. So WinOncore 12 does

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread SAIDJACK
The first problem is, I didn't even know that was the command set the unit had, the @@Cf looked familiar though. I wasted an hour trying to get the Trimble application to work, until I tried WinOncore12 and the unit responded. Can't use TeraTerm to send commands, and the user manual

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread SAIDJACK
There is the problem: I used the Trimble GPS Studio application that was posted here yesterday, that does not support the TEP protocol.. Will try with GPS Monitor.. Is the TrimbleMon available somewhere safe on the web? Can't seem to find it with Google. I got it working with Oncore12,

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Mark Sims
Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless for a timing receiver. Supposedly the Nortel NTGS50AA docs and support info (including GPSMONITOR were uploaded to the

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Tom Van Baak
Why in the hell would anybody build a 50 channel receiver? At most you MIGHT see 12 usable GPS sats... I don't think that I've seen over 10. WAAS should be fairly useless for a timing receiver. Or 216 channels (GPS L1/L2/L2C/L5; GLONASS L1/L2; Galileo E1/E5A):

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-10 Thread Said Jackson
Think Galileo, Waas, Glonass, and gps could give you more than 38 sats, over determination will give better results and much faster cold starts without almanac and assist. Waas helps a lot when you run on a Uav chasing bad guys, think timing under motion without position hold mode, so there are

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Sims
I got a couple of these in and cannot get them to talk. There are two pins on the connector that are labeled reserved and no-connect. The no-conect pin has a trace going to (at least) a cap. Perhaps there is an enable pin? Has anybody got these to work?

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-09 Thread Sam
/ResolutionSMT_1A_UserGuide_5347.pdf Sam. - Original Message - From: Mark Sims [mailto:hol...@hotmail.com] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wed, 09 May 2012 21:01:01 +1000 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent? I got a couple of these in and cannot get them

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-05-09 Thread Mark Sims
I have it running now. It turns out that the units from fluke.l come shipped with TEP format messages enabled (it outputs @@Cf on power up). You have to re-configure them for TSIP protocol and save the configuration back to the unit. Hope to have Lady Heather taking to it. It does come up

[time-nuts] Trimble Resolution SMT - good/bad/indifferent?

2012-04-17 Thread David J Taylor
I see the Trimble Resolution SMT Timing GPS OEM board 66974-35 on a well-known auction site from a weel-know seller fluke.i, at quite a good price, and free UK post. Is it any good - as good it seems to be. Any experience? Thanks, David -- SatSignal software - quality software written to