Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling

2015-11-24 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Al, Thanks for the good idea, that would certainly have saved me a bit of work:-), but the switch box inserted in the coax line with the counter input set to high impedance performs the same function, straight through connection with the option to switch in a 50 ohm shunt resistor, and it's

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling

2015-11-24 Thread Al Wolfe
Nigel, Set your counter to high impedance. Then install a T connector on the input. Then you can install or remove a 50 ohm terminator on the T while plotting the results. Then you can see how fast the frequency shift is depending on the load. AL, k9si Switching the impedance at the

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling.

2015-11-24 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
My bet is interaction of the load current and power supply with the EFC and/or OCXO - Well, I haven't started probing the hardware yet, I was hoping I might get some confirmation first as to whether what I I'm seeing is an anomaly for this one or just par for the course with the

[time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling.

2015-11-23 Thread Mark Sims
My bet is interaction of the load current and power supply with the EFC and/or OCXO. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling.

2015-11-23 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
> Before I start probing any deeper I'd be interested to hear if anyone > else come across this with the Thunderbolt E. Is it thermal? Can you measure the frequency shift before it has time to warm up? Switching the impedance at the counter itself resets any plot

[time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling.

2015-11-22 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Please note that this question refers to the branded "Thunderbolt E" GPSDO, in a silver coloured case with blue label and using a single 24V supply, and not the gold coloured "Thunderbolt" that is often found marked "Rev E". Whilst testing a Thunderbolt E I've observed that the

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt E frequency pulling.

2015-11-22 Thread Hal Murray
> I'm familiar with the concept of frequency pulling in oscillators but > would have expected the Thunderbolt E output to be better buffered than > this, it's certainly not something I've experienced with the gold cased > Thunderbolts. > Before I start probing any deeper I'd be interested