Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Hal Murray

david.g.mc...@dartmouth.edu said:
> Perhaps of interest, I was able to receive the new code reliably with an
> evaluation receiver in Kangerlussuaq, Greenland last spring. 

What sort of receiver were you using and/or are they available at a 
reasonable price?


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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread David G. McGaw
We have a number of the UltrAtomic clocks in our Physics classrooms at 
Dartmouth in NH because they are in well shielded, interior rooms and a 
noisy environment.  Lesser clocks do not sync.  They all switched properly.


Perhaps of interest, I was able to receive the new code reliably with an 
evaluation receiver in Kangerlussuaq, Greenland last spring.


David N1HAC


On 11/5/17 11:36 AM, Mike Garvey wrote:

My Ultratomic properly made the transition back to std time this morning.  I am 
in the Boston area.
Mike

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Hi

All of the ones here (a fairly large sample :) ) seem to have changed “on time”.
I’m in Pennsylvania so not exactly close to WWVB. They are various brands and 
various ages. None of them (yet) are the fancy new ones that do the “improved”
modulation.

Bob


On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Dan Kemppainen  wrote:

Hi all,

So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?

Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set
itself, so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern
Michigan, eastern time zone.)

Anyone else have a clock that missed dst change?

Dan


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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Tom Van Baak
> So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?
> 
> Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set itself, 
> so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern Michigan, eastern 
> time zone.)

Hi Dan,

One of the advantages of the UltrAtomic clock is that it makes use of the 
enhanced WWVB encoding format. That new format is specifically designed to 
solve DST / reception problems:

https://www.nist.gov/sites/default/files/documents/2017/05/09/NIST-Enhanced-WWVB-Broadcast-Format-1_01-2013-11-06.pdf

So your results are perplexing. When you say "time has been right since it 
first set itself" are you talking within minutes, or seconds, or fractions of a 
second? That would tell us if it has been receiving ok over the past week or 
month.

Also, can you check what your DST / Q-mode / Eco-mode switches are set to?

http://www.lacrossetechnology.com/media/catalog/product/4/0/404-1235ua-ss_manual_092316.pdf

Thanks,
/tvb

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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Mike Garvey
My Ultratomic properly made the transition back to std time this morning.  I am 
in the Boston area.
Mike

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Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2017 10:49
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Subject: Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

Hi

All of the ones here (a fairly large sample :) ) seem to have changed “on 
time”. 
I’m in Pennsylvania so not exactly close to WWVB. They are various brands and 
various ages. None of them (yet) are the fancy new ones that do the “improved”
modulation. 

Bob

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Dan Kemppainen  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?
> 
> Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set 
> itself, so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern 
> Michigan, eastern time zone.)
> 
> Anyone else have a clock that missed dst change?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi

All of the ones here (a fairly large sample :) ) seem to have changed “on 
time”. 
I’m in Pennsylvania so not exactly close to WWVB. They are various brands
and various ages. None of them (yet) are the fancy new ones that do the 
“improved”
modulation. 

Bob

> On Nov 5, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Dan Kemppainen  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?
> 
> Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set itself, 
> so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern Michigan, eastern 
> time zone.)
> 
> Anyone else have a clock that missed dst change?
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Dan,

 I can't answer directly as I am in England, but I have a similar
problem with my MSF and DCF clocks here in the autumn (sorry, "Fall" :-) -
my clocks only switch on their receivers once a day, at 1 o'clock in the
morning, but at the end of summer our time doesn't change until 2 o'clock,
so the clocks miss the update until the following night.  Maybe yours is
similar?

 Regards,

  Peter




On 5 November 2017 at 14:23, Dan Kemppainen  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?
>
> Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set
> itself, so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern
> Michigan, eastern time zone.)
>
> Anyone else have a clock that missed dst change?
>
> Dan
>
>
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[time-nuts] UltrAtomic clock.

2017-11-05 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Hi all,

So, anyone notice what time their UltrAtomic clock did the dst change?

Mine didn't change last night. Time has been right since it first set itself, 
so, I'm suspecting it's getting signal. ( We're in northern Michigan, eastern 
time zone.)

Anyone else have a clock that missed dst change?

Dan


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Re: [time-nuts] UltrAtomic Clock

2017-04-06 Thread paul swed
The successful rate of the cme8000 chip thats being used was something like
80-90% 24 X 7 from when I was logging it on the east coast. I was amazed as
I have dealt with wwvb over many years.
Its a shame that there is no access to some of the tidbits within the chip
for tinkering. But then it does what it is designed to do.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Larry McDavid  wrote:

> When I got home after my Thursday Lunch meeting today, my new La Crosse
> 404-1235UA-SS UltrAtomic clock was waiting. I unpacked it and installed two
> (of 4 possible) C-cells and set it on the floor upstairs near the center of
> my home, fully under the radiant barrier insulation that has foiled (that's
> a pun!) all my previous "Atomic" clocks. The hands moved around 4 hours and
> stopped. I left.
>
> Returning about an hour later, the clock had set itself correctly!
>
> I verified the displayed time against my (Tindie) GPS Clock and the
> seconds and seconds-tick match as closely as I can determine visually.
>
> It's very unusual for these WWVB clocks to set during daylight. Normally,
> the 60 KHz WWVB reception during daylight hours is very poor indeed here on
> the west coast. These "atomic" clocks normally set to WWVB time in the
> several hours after midnight.
>
> That this new BPSK phase-shift modulation allowed reception under poor
> conditions is a big plus, especially for those with radiant barrier
> insulation and those who live on the east coast where the WWVB signal is
> weak.
>
> If you want to shop for this new clock, check Amazon for price:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-404-1235UA-SS-UltrA
> tomic-Stainless/dp/B01CCHXTE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=
> 1491517516&sr=8-1&keywords=ultrAtomic+clock
>
> Better specs are on the La Crosse website here:
>
> http://www.lacrossetechnology.com/404-1235ua-ss-unltrtomic-a
> nalog-wall-clock
>
> It's kinda big, but I surely won't have any trouble reading it across a
> room!
>
> --
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>
> Larry McDavid W6FUB
> Anaheim, California  (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
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[time-nuts] UltrAtomic Clock

2017-04-06 Thread Larry McDavid
When I got home after my Thursday Lunch meeting today, my new La Crosse 
404-1235UA-SS UltrAtomic clock was waiting. I unpacked it and installed 
two (of 4 possible) C-cells and set it on the floor upstairs near the 
center of my home, fully under the radiant barrier insulation that has 
foiled (that's a pun!) all my previous "Atomic" clocks. The hands moved 
around 4 hours and stopped. I left.


Returning about an hour later, the clock had set itself correctly!

I verified the displayed time against my (Tindie) GPS Clock and the 
seconds and seconds-tick match as closely as I can determine visually.


It's very unusual for these WWVB clocks to set during daylight. 
Normally, the 60 KHz WWVB reception during daylight hours is very poor 
indeed here on the west coast. These "atomic" clocks normally set to 
WWVB time in the several hours after midnight.


That this new BPSK phase-shift modulation allowed reception under poor 
conditions is a big plus, especially for those with radiant barrier 
insulation and those who live on the east coast where the WWVB signal is 
weak.


If you want to shop for this new clock, check Amazon for price:

https://www.amazon.com/Crosse-Technology-404-1235UA-SS-UltrAtomic-Stainless/dp/B01CCHXTE2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1491517516&sr=8-1&keywords=ultrAtomic+clock

Better specs are on the La Crosse website here:

http://www.lacrossetechnology.com/404-1235ua-ss-unltrtomic-analog-wall-clock

It's kinda big, but I surely won't have any trouble reading it across a 
room!


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Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California  (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)
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