Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread paul swed
Well I have lost 2 sharps one a while ago and now another that had been working well until dst. Yes they are 4-5 years old but the xtals aren't all that sharp and the gain in the TRF is pretty significant such that the xtal can be off frequency and still work. But the odd thing is there is an anten

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited) (J. Forster)

2013-03-20 Thread johncroos
3 09:24:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "J. Forster" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited) Message-ID: <65101.12.6.201.31.1363796652.squir...@popaccts.quikus.com> Content-Type: tex

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Eric Williams
I also have a SkyScan clock that is claiming to be synced to WWVB, but is slowly drifting off. I've replaced the battery and it synced at least once after DST conversion, Two other WWVB clocks are working as they should. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Clint Turner wrote: > A few weeks ago I

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Clint Turner
I found a note on the SkyScan web site itself that attempts to offer an explanation/excuse as to why some of their clocks no longer synchronize: http://skyscanatomicclocks.com/site/help-my-86715-86730-87315-is-not-catching-the-signal/ This, however, is a BIG red herring. The ONLY change that w

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread J. Forster
If a clock uses a narrow (high Q)filter, the BPSK may mess up the amplitude response. The Time Code is modulated AM on the carrier. If this is the case, broadening the filter, possibly by adding shunt resistance, might fix the issue. FWIW, -John > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 02:34:1

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread J. Forster
bility to ignore phase modulation. > > Bob > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Herbert Poetzl > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 10:58 AM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subje

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
ent Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited) Yes I did seriously try to get the sharp unit going last night no luck at all. The Lacrosse seems to be doing well still. I suspect this is NISTs effort to finally and completely get rid of that totally non green power s

[time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Brucekareen
Our favorite La Crosse bedroom projection clock stopped synchronizing about the time WWVB implemented phase-modulation. However, even unlocked, it keeps pretty accurate time. When Daylight time comes or goes, in the spring and fall, I have to take the clock out on the deck and remove and r

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
esday, March 20, 2013 10:58 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited) On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 02:34:19AM -0400, Bill S wrote: > Interestingly, I have three timepieces that will no longer > synch to ww

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread paul swed
Yes I did seriously try to get the sharp unit going last night no luck at all. The Lacrosse seems to be doing well still. I suspect this is NISTs effort to finally and completely get rid of that totally non green power sucking LF wwvb. Lets face it those towers are an eye sore. The property if not

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Louis Williams
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited) The thing is, many of us on the opposite end of the country from WWVB have to rely on favorable propagation to make our clocks work reliably. What happens if noon and midnight aren't favorable times? -Ch

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 11:22:46AM -0400, Chuck Harris wrote: > The thing is, many of us on the opposite end of the country > from WWVB have to rely on favorable propagation to make our > clocks work reliably. What happens if noon and midnight > aren't favorable times? Then you got a problem I gu

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Chuck Harris
The thing is, many of us on the opposite end of the country from WWVB have to rely on favorable propagation to make our clocks work reliably. What happens if noon and midnight aren't favorable times? -Chuck Harris Herbert Poetzl wrote: On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 02:34:19AM -0400, Bill S wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 02:34:19AM -0400, Bill S wrote: > Interestingly, I have three timepieces that will no longer > synch to wwvb.Two Radio Shack digital clocks and a Casio > wristwatch that I've worn for a couple of years and was always > pretty much dead on. Like Paul, I have an analog Lacros

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi So far all the WWVB stuff is running here. That includes my Casio wristwatch. I admit that this thread convinced me to actually check it…. Bob On Mar 20, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Bill S wrote: > Interestingly, I have three timepieces that will no longer synch to wwvb.Two > Radio Shack digital cl

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-20 Thread Bill S
Interestingly, I have three timepieces that will no longer synch to wwvb.Two Radio Shack digital clocks and a Casio wristwatch that I've worn for a couple of years and was always pretty much dead on. Like Paul, I have an analog Lacrosse clock that is running correctly. Nothing I've tried will m

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-19 Thread paul swed
Funny you bring this up. I am just noticing a sharp clock that I always use and it has been accurate. But it did not flip with the time change this time and though it says its locked its off by 45 seconds slow. Yet a lacross clock across the room seems to be on second wise but never flipped with th

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-19 Thread Clint Turner
Someone pointed out a typo: I wrote model number "86716" where I meant to write "86715" for the SkyScan clock in question. In the linked web pages it is correct, however. 73, Clint KA7OEI Clint Turner wrote: A few weeks ago I posted a question/comment about some of my WWVB-based "Atomic"

[time-nuts] WWVB Clocks don't sync anymore (revisited)

2013-03-19 Thread Clint Turner
A few weeks ago I posted a question/comment about some of my WWVB-based "Atomic" clocks no longer setting themselves properly. These two clocks, SkyScan #86716, would show the symbol indicating that they had set themselves, but their time was drifting away from UTC. Interestingly, they *would*