Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-08-01 Thread Dave Baxter
. --Original Message Message: 10 Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:41:17 +0100 From: Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Message-ID: 4a7364fd.9020

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-08-01 Thread Robert Atkinson
The british military marking for BeO is a pale blue color. Normally a paint spot but I've seen insulators that were tinted blue. Robert G8RPI. --- On Sat, 1/8/09, Dave Baxter d...@uk-ar.co.uk wrote: From: Dave Baxter d...@uk-ar.co.uk Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide To: time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-07-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Marco IK1ODO wrote: Robert, Some power tubesmay use it internally. As far as I know, from many discussions with power tube manufacturers, no power tube uses beryllia, except for that conduction-cooled Eimac tubes. It's simply not needed. Other tubes (not power ones) may be different, but I

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-07-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Marco IK1ODO wrote: Robert, Some power tubesmay use it internally. As far as I know, from many discussions with power tube manufacturers, no power tube uses beryllia, except for that conduction-cooled Eimac tubes. It's simply not needed. Other tubes (not power

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Mike S
At 12:22 PM 1/16/2009, Robert Darlington wrote... Beryliosis. That's a glib response, which says nothing to contradict Brooke's point. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Lux, James P
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: 1/16/09 09:41 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide At 12:22 PM 1/16/2009, Robert Darlington wrote... Beryliosis. That's a glib response, which says

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Hal Murray
Beryliosis. The problem that I'm familiar with is dust made when machining beryllium. In the 60s, MIT had a whole building that was full of the stuff leftover from machining parts for the Polaris guidance system. Beryllium is light and stiff, good for making gyros. Beryllium oxide is a

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Mike S
At 12:45 PM 1/16/2009, Lux, James P wrote... More realistically, the dangeris dust when something is physically overstressed (dropped, mounting overtightened, thermal shock). That, and if it gets ground up in trash disposal... Say someone throws it in the shredder. So, if some electronics have

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Robert Atkinson
is in some (eg argon-ion) lasers. on a side note some vacuum tubes (especially cold cathode types) contain various radioactive materials. Robert G8RPI. --- On Fri, 16/1/09, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: From: Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Rick Karlquist
Robert Atkinson wrote: non-electronic application is in some (eg argon-ion) lasers. on a side note some vacuum tubes (especially cold cathode types) contain various radioactive materials. Robert G8RPI. Of interest to time nuts is that rubidium standards contain two isotopes of Rb, one of

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Rick Karlquist wrote: Robert Atkinson wrote: non-electronic application is in some (eg argon-ion) lasers. on a side note some vacuum tubes (especially cold cathode types) contain various radioactive materials. Robert G8RPI. Of interest to time nuts is that rubidium standards

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread d . seiter
Since we're on the subject, what does BeO typically look like when it's used as a washer, heatsink, etc. I ask because I tend to keep everything and I modify things all the time. Is there any way besides being painted that it could pass as Al? -Dave

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Date: Friday, 16 January, 2009, 6:28 PM At 12:45 PM 1/16/2009, Lux, James P wrote... More realistically, the dangeris dust when something is physically

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread v. Bonhorst
] Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide I've personally seen three applications of BeO in electronics. Two, including the most common, are a possible hazzard. The most common application is RF power devices (transistors and terminating resistors). These hace a washer or slab of BeO between

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Marco IK1ODO
Robert, Some power tubesmay use it internally. As far as I know, from many discussions with power tube manufacturers, no power tube uses beryllia, except for that conduction-cooled Eimac tubes. It's simply not needed. Other tubes (not power ones) may be different, but I never heard of any

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Marco IK1ODO
At 20.41 16/01/2009, you wrote: Since we're on the subject, what does BeO typically look like when it's used as a washer, heatsink, etc. I ask because I tend to keep everything and I modify things all the time. Is there any way besides being painted that it could pass as Al? -Dave Exactly

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread David Forbes
d.sei...@comcast.net wrote: Since we're on the subject, what does BeO typically look like when it's used as a washer, heatsink, etc. I ask because I tend to keep everything and I modify things all the time. Is there any way besides being painted that it could pass as Al? -Dave Dave,

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Bruce Griffiths
d.sei...@comcast.net wrote: Since we're on the subject, what does BeO typically look like when it's used as a washer, heatsink, etc. I ask because I tend to keep everything and I modify things all the time. Is there any way besides being painted that it could pass as Al? -Dave

[time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Sims
Three other places one may encounter beryllium are: 1) Beryllium copper springs and contacts, usually around 2-3% beryllium. Not likely to cause a problem unless you get your jollies grinding up springy metal and snorting the powder. 2) Beryllium tools! Tools (particularly screwdrivers

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Magnus Danielson
Mark Sims skrev: Three other places one may encounter beryllium are: 1) Beryllium copper springs and contacts, usually around 2-3% beryllium. Not likely to cause a problem unless you get your jollies grinding up springy metal and snorting the powder. 2) Beryllium tools! Tools

[time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Mark Sims
Oh, and one more place to find pure beryllium in the home... high end stereo equipment... specifically in speakers and tweeters. For an example of this: http://www.utopia-be.com/Technology/Beryllium.htm Couple a few of those with your cesium locked turntable and $100,000 oxygen free

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 4970e72d.1050...@rubidium.dyndns.org, Magnus Danielson writes: I have encountered Beryllium in a field none of you mentioned, as material for speaker cones. Light and very rigid. Perfect for the top driver for horns. I recall something about high speed of sound. It is also used for

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 22975.1232136...@critter.freebsd.dk, Poul-Henning Kamp writes: It is also used for mirrors for certain, usually classified, applications. Actually, isn't the James Webb space telescope using a Be mirror now that I think about it ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Tom Clifton
Also used on old lighthouse tubes used for uhf and low microwave applications fro the '40's and '50's. If my memory serves me, these tubes were found in devices like the airborne APX-6 IFF Transponder in which the greatest hazard was the detonators used to destroy the device should a plane go

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Mike Clapp
James Webb space telescope and Utah Beryllium mine http://heliophysics.org/headlines/y2008/10dec_mirror.htm On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Tom Clifton kc0...@yahoo.com wrote: Also used on old lighthouse tubes used for uhf and low microwave applications fro the '40's and '50's. If my

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Neville Michie
I was once told that the white sticky paste put under power transistors years ago as a heat conduction aid was dangerous because it was based on berylium oxide cheers, Neville Michie ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Bruce: Thanks for the MDA Technology link. I didn't know that Beryllium was used to make mirrors and their metering structures for space apps. It sure sounds like the best material for that use. I'd bet that's how spy sat mirrors are made. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.prc68.com

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 49710157.5030...@pacific.net, Brooke Clarke writes: I'd bet that's how spy sat mirrors are made. Your Tax Money At Work Quiz: 1. Why do you think there was so little research involved in the mirror construction for the Webb Telescope ? 2. Why do you think the KeyHole

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Steve Rooke
Guys, isn't this whole thread getting a bit off-topic. 2009/1/17 Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk: In message 49710157.5030...@pacific.net, Brooke Clarke writes: I'd bet that's how spy sat mirrors are made. Your Tax Money At Work Quiz: 1. Why do you think there was so little research

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Lux, James P
On 1/16/09 12:34 PM, M. Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote: But what about the Beryllium Sphere? What happens when you activate that? Warner The sphere merely provides the power for the Omega 13. That's what gets activated. And now that you mention such things, the Omega 13 has effects

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Richard W. Solomon
Also in the Heath SB-230. I wish I still had mine. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net Sent: Jan 16, 2009 1:52 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide Another place to find

Re: [time-nuts] beryllium oxide

2009-01-16 Thread Eric Garner
Re: Beryllium was originally called glucinium becuase it and its salts tasted very sweet. In fact, tasting used to be a diagnostic test for the presence of beryllium. I remember from my inorganic chem course that lead acetate was also called sugar of lead because of it's sweet taste. and if