Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-09 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
Chris wrote: My perpetually drifting 10811 pretty quickly made it to the negative voltage rail on the control voltage. Is this an oscillator you just powered up after it had been off for a long time? The most common versions of the 0811 are specified for drift of less than 5 x 10e-10 per

[time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Howard
I built a GPSDO using my own power supply, a VE2ZAZ board, a Trimble Resolution T GPS and a surplus HP 10811 oscillator. I'm having a bit of trouble with it. I have it set up and it locks ok and stays in lock so far. But the recommended long-term integration setting is not working for me.

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread David McQuate
If you can measure the 10811 frequency as a function of the control voltage with the 10811 control voltage input disconnected from everything else, you'll have a curve that will allow you to translate control voltage changes into frequency drift. My impression is that the 10811 ageing is

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Bob Camp
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Howard Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 9:49 AM To: Time Nuts Subject: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question) I built a GPSDO using my own power supply, a VE2ZAZ board, a Trimble Resolution T GPS and a surplus HP

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Graham / KE9H
Chris: I doubt that you have test equipment that can directly measure the hourly aging frequency drift of the HP10811. To get a handle on what you are dealing with, you need to use the spec sheet on the HP10811 to calculate the tuning sensitivity of the HP10811, in Hz per Volts. (more likely

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Graham / KE9H
Chris: I doubt that you have test equipment that can directly measure the hourly aging frequency drift of the HP10811. To get a handle on what you are dealing with, you need to use the spec sheet on the HP10811 to calculate the tuning sensitivity of the HP10811, in Hz per Volts. (more likely

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread WarrenS
] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question) Chris Howard chris at elfpen.com I built a GPSDO using my own power supply, a VE2ZAZ board, a Trimble Resolution T GPS and a surplus HP 10811 oscillator. I'm having a bit of trouble with it. I have it set up and it locks ok and stays in lock so

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Azelio Boriani
[time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question) Chris Howard chris at elfpen.com I built a GPSDO using my own power supply, a VE2ZAZ board, a Trimble Resolution T GPS and a surplus HP 10811 oscillator. I'm having a bit of trouble with it. I have

Re: [time-nuts] getting a grip on 10811 drift (beginner-ish question)

2012-11-05 Thread Chris Howard
On 11/5/2012 3:16 PM, Richard H McCorkle wrote: The EFC specs on a 10811 are a frequency change of 1 Hz over a –5v to +5v EFC span or a sensitivity of roughly 1e-8 per volt (varies widely up to about 3e-8 / volt on some units) so you can get a ballpark idea of the age rate by looking at