Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The range of suppliers and age of the units makes them a bit of a gamble. Of
course buying any used OCXO is a bit of a gamble.

Bob

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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Riches
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 4:49 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

They were dogs though - I worked on mine for repairing 1051 rx - seemed
failure rate was more than 50 %  - took 2 or three to make a good unit! But
when you made one work they were quite accurate considering their age.

73,

Bill, WA2DVU


Hi Bob,

Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out.   But I don't want to chance it
till I know for sure what the power requirements are.
Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had.




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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Bill Riches
They were dogs though - I worked on mine for repairing 1051 rx - seemed
failure rate was more than 50 %  - took 2 or three to make a good unit! But
when you made one work they were quite accurate considering their age.

73,

Bill, WA2DVU


Hi Bob,

Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out.   But I don't want to chance it
till I know for sure what the power requirements are.
Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had.




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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Bill Riches
I used to rebuild these units many years ago and they were quite a good 
oscillator - these units would be good for a few parts in 10-9 and 10-8. 

73,

Bill, WA2DVU

>
>Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net
>"The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax 
>outputs into a D type connector."
>
>+
>It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is 
>some info
on 
>repairing it here: 
>http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf

Yes, it is. For a picture look here:
http://www.jamminpower.com/main/r1051.html

Should you be unable to download the manuals, I could send you at least the 
schematic diagram and component location of the Freq. Std.
I have one of these oscillators, and years ago I used  18VDC for testing. It is 
rated at 10E-8 per day, and has 5MHz, 1MHz and 10 MHz  plus 2x500KHz outputs. 
As you may have seen, it was used on a radio.

Antonio I8IOV





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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hi Bob,

Yes.. that is what I am trying to find out.   But I don’t want to chance it
till I know for sure what the power requirements are.
Thanks for the heads up though, I did not realize the bad rep these had.



Paul A. Cianciolo
W1VLF
http://www.rescueelectronics.com/
Our business computer network is  powered exclusively by solar and wind
power.
Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years



-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Camp
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:51 PM
To: 'Arthur Dent'; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

Hi

The gotcha here is that "frequency standard" is a relative term. For what
ever reason, these were a high failure item in the R-1051. People talk about
seeing large piles of them at repair depots. The replacement contracts often
went to outfits that had little experience in the OCXO business. Even a
"good" part may not be what a time nut would call a frequency standard.

Bob

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From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Dent
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:35 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net
"The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
into a D type connector."

+
It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some
info on repairing it here: 
http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf
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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Pete Lancashire
6625-078-4718   -   * Frequency Standard Module from R-1051* and
RT-618* radios; usable as replacement or adapt to other need where
standard is required. Crystal oven with 5 MHz crystal provides 5 MHz
sine wave output (approx 1.8V) plus possible non-sine outputs dual
500KHz, 1 & 10 MHz. Designed stability: 1 part in 10 / day. Requires
18-24VDC input. 4.4x3x4.5, 2 lbs sh. Used crystal only is checked,
other output may need repair, with schematic,

Found on Fair Radio's site ..

-pete

On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Paul A. Cianciolo  wrote:
> Hello Folks,
>
>
>
> I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at
> one time.
>
> The model number of 2N6625-078-4718  internet search yields nothing on this
> number.
>
> The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4" x 3" x 4" with an aluminum
> cover that comes off.
>
> The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
> into a D type connector.
>
> It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are
>
> 2) a  red white and black that leads to the circuit board
>
> 3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board.
>
>
>
> I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up.
>
>
>
>
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
>
>
>
>
> Paul A. Cianciolo
>
> W1VLF
>
> http://www.rescueelectronics.com/
>
> Our business computer network is  powered exclusively by solar and wind
> power.
>
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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Stan, W1LE

Good Morning Paul,

Sounds like a very old military unit.   Probably 60's vintage.
before the 13 digit NSNs.

national stock number (NSN) is probably 6625-078-4718.
I do not recall what the 2N could mean.

a modern NSN would look like 6625-00-078-4718   or  6625-01-078-4718

Stan, W1LE   on Cape Cod



On 3/7/2012 10:45 AM, Paul A. Cianciolo wrote:

Hello Folks,



I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at
one time.

The model number of 2N6625-078-4718  internet search yields nothing on this
number.

The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4" x 3" x 4" with an aluminum
cover that comes off.

The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
into a D type connector.

It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are

2) a  red white and black that leads to the circuit board

3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board.



I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up.





Any ideas?



Thank you





Paul A. Cianciolo

W1VLF

http://www.rescueelectronics.com/

Our business computer network is  powered exclusively by solar and wind
power.

Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years



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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi

The gotcha here is that "frequency standard" is a relative term. For what
ever reason, these were a high failure item in the R-1051. People talk about
seeing large piles of them at repair depots. The replacement contracts often
went to outfits that had little experience in the OCXO business. Even a
"good" part may not be what a time nut would call a frequency standard.

Bob

-Original Message-
From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Arthur Dent
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:35 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net 
"The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
into a D type connector."

+
It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some
info on 
repairing it here: 
http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf 
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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread iov...@inwind.it
>Ogg: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??
>
>Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net 
>"The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
>into a D type connector."
>
>+
>It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info 
on 
>repairing it here: 
>http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf 

Yes, it is. For a picture look here:
http://www.jamminpower.com/main/r1051.html

Should you be unable to download the manuals, I could send you at least the 
schematic diagram and component location of the Freq. Std.
I have one of these oscillators, and years ago I used  18VDC for testing. It 
is rated at 10E-8 per day, and has 5MHz, 1MHz and 10 MHz  plus 2x500KHz 
outputs. As you may have seen, it was used on a radio.

Antonio I8IOV


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[time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Arthur Dent
Paul A. Cianciolo paulc at snet.net 
"The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
into a D type connector."

+
It sounds like the R-1051/URR receiver frequency standard. There is some info 
on 
repairing it here: 
http://www.jamminpower.com/PDF/Navships%200967-034-2000.pdf 
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Re: [time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread ROLYNN PRECHTL K7DFW
> The model number of 2N6625-078-4718  internet search yields nothing on this 
> number.




Remove the 2N from the gaggle and you'll have a standard number sequence that 
Google has some info
for you.



RP





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[time-nuts] military frequency standard pin out??

2012-03-07 Thread Paul A. Cianciolo
Hello Folks,

 

I found in my collection a frequency standard that I acquired mil surplus at
one time.

The model number of 2N6625-078-4718  internet search yields nothing on this
number.

The unit is a common looking one , approx. 4" x 3" x 4" with an aluminum
cover that comes off.

The cover has the layout of the parts.  The connector has 6 coax outputs
into a D type connector.

It appears 3 pins for power 1 is ground that easy to see but the others are 

2) a  red white and black that leads to the circuit board

3) and a brown white and black also leads to the circuit board.

 

I would like to fire this up, but not burn it up.

 

 

Any ideas?

 

Thank you

 

 

Paul A. Cianciolo

W1VLF

http://www.rescueelectronics.com/

Our business computer network is  powered exclusively by solar and wind
power.

Converting Photons to Electrons for over 20 years

 

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