Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The basic answer is: 1) Power them off of something stable around 18 to 19 volts. Anything higher just heats them up without doing anything useful. 2) Put a heat sink on them. You want to get the base plate to below 50C. Without a heat sink they get warm enough to significantly shorten their

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
Eric, the power supply quality is not critical. The LPRO (like most other Rb's) has an internal switching power supply, so the wide tolerance in the primary power source voltage. I found other Rb's to be quite sensitive to vibrations, but when they are in a box, with a decent PS (I use an

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Chuck Harris
There are lots of ways you can unintentionally affect a device like an LPRO. For instance, suppose the internal power supply dissipates a different amount of heat depending on the input supply voltage. This could cause the oven to momentarily shift its internal temperature a small amount...

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/10/11 19:01, Chuck Harris wrote: There are lots of ways you can unintentionally affect a device like an LPRO. For instance, suppose the internal power supply dissipates a different amount of heat depending on the input supply voltage. This could cause the oven to momentarily shift its

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread David VanHorn
No, I haven't done this, but I realized this after fiddling around with supplies and verified the ideas with a friend of mine designing supplies all the time. He also pointed out that many switch supplies tend to run better when the supply voltage is on the low side of things. Better? Lower

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Eric Garner
fortunately, everything in the lab(basement) is on UPSs so in theory the input voltages to the equipment should be pretty constant and I was already planning on using a linear supply. as far as magnetic disturbances go, what is a reasonable precaution short of making a muMetal box? On Fri, Oct

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread John Lofgren
fortunately, everything in the lab(basement) is on UPSs so in theory the input voltages to the equipment should be pretty constant and I was already planning on using a linear supply. Be careful, there. Most consumer type UPSs are not line regulators. When there is sufficiently high line

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 07/10/11 20:30, John Lofgren wrote: fortunately, everything in the lab(basement) is on UPSs so in theory the input voltages to the equipment should be pretty constant and I was already planning on using a linear supply. Be careful, there. Most consumer type UPSs are not line regulators.

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Chuck Harris
Magnus Danielson wrote: We're time-nuts. We are trying to get more from these devices than the manufacturer ever intended. So you let in normal mains into you lab? :-) Me personally? I don't worry much about little stuff like that, so I am more of a time-nut heretic. I did wire my house

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/7/11 11:16 AM, Eric Garner wrote: fortunately, everything in the lab(basement) is on UPSs so in theory the input voltages to the equipment should be pretty constant and I was already planning on using a linear supply. What kind of UPS? A static inverter? Most UPSes just feed the line

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread lists
I run my pcs on a double conversion true sine wave UPS. It is designed to run continuously. It converts to DC, which is easy to filter, then creates a voltage and frequency regulated sine wave. Modified sine is just a square wave. Complete junk.

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread Eric Garner
They are APC double conversion(online) UPSs. I ended up buying them because my washing machine makes the lights in the basement flicker when it runs so I didn't want that feeding through into my equipment. I've looked into the ferroresonant regulators like the Sola MCR series but they are pretty

Re: [time-nuts] the care and feeding of LPRO's

2011-10-07 Thread lists
I'm using Opti-UPS, but the same idea. They have software such that you can monitor the power being delivered, frequency, voltage, etc. The only real drawback to double conversion is the fan noise. The Opti-UPS is slightly quieter than the APC, but not by much. The fan noise is quite