Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 WWVB Measurements

2019-01-02 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Wayne: The problem is that when and how DST is implemented is a political decision at the state level.  When those rules that apply today are implemented in firmware (easy to do) the product tells the wrong time when those rules change. In the case of the Heathkit GC-1000 the DST firmware

Re: [time-nuts] question about multi-way measurement

2019-01-02 Thread Hal Murray
strom...@nexgo.de said: > Over wired Ethernet you can expect to synchronize a bunch of systems to > within a ~200µs envelope of absolute time and maybe a factor of 2x-3x lower > if you can control certain things more tightly than usual if you run those > system on a single hop switched LAN

[time-nuts] FCC OTA pre-emption and restrictions on GPS antennas [was: Short term 10MHz source]

2019-01-02 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 4:03 AM Chris Burford wrote: > My current residence does not allow a permanent GPS antenna therefore I am > limited in its use. [separate thread since I'm not answering the question that was actually asked.] Perhaps not applicable to your situation, but in the US federal

Re: [time-nuts] Short term 10MHz source

2019-01-02 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Use the Rb as your reference and log the time offset of its PPS. > Manually steer vs a 10 hour GPS PPS data set once a week. > You probably will stretch it out to a couple weeks after things settle in. I'm with Bob here. Once a week, once a month, once a year, even once a lifetime: the choice

Re: [time-nuts] HP3325B as LO for a transceiver or receiver? Phase noise?

2019-01-02 Thread Chris Caudle
On Wed, January 2, 2019 4:15 am, Leo Bodnar wrote: > Here is the phase noise at 10MHz > http://www.leobodnar.com/files/mini%20GPS%20clock%20-%20phase%20noise%2010MHz.png Does that plot have enough resolution to show any narrow band spurs? That looks really clean for a programmable clock source.

Re: [time-nuts] question about multi-way measurement

2019-01-02 Thread Achim Gratz
Charles Wyble wrote: I built a dedicated server room in my house, with it's own air conditioner. I've been working on overall instrumentation , especially temperature. If the rasPi is a dedicated system and does not serve extra tasks, just record its CPU temperature, no extra sensor needed.

Re: [time-nuts] Short term 10MHz source

2019-01-02 Thread Chris Burford
I'll give the window placement a try and see if I can maintain a usable lock. Thanks for the assistance. Chris Hal Murray wrote: > > > I do realise that the long term stability of the GPSDO is somewhat superior > > to a Rubidium source. I'm planning on using my TICC to validate both my

Re: [time-nuts] HP3325B as LO for a transceiver or receiver? Phase noise?

2019-01-02 Thread Didier Juges
Another option would be to phase lock the existing XO in the transceiver instead of "replacing" it. With a very narrow PLL bandwidth, you should not degrade the transceiver stock performance. Didier KO4BB On Wed, Jan 2, 2019, 4:17 AM Leo Bodnar Here is the phase noise at 10MHz >

Re: [time-nuts] Short term 10MHz source

2019-01-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Use the Rb as your reference and log the time offset of its PPS. Manually steer vs a 10 hour GPS PPS data set once a week. You probably will stretch it out to a couple weeks after things settle in. More or less: PPS starts at some offset. Call that zero. As the days go along: PPS goes

Re: [time-nuts] HP3325B as LO for a transceiver or receiver? Phase noise?

2019-01-02 Thread Leo Bodnar
Here is the phase noise at 10MHz http://www.leobodnar.com/files/mini%20GPS%20clock%20-%20phase%20noise%2010MHz.png There will be overall noise increase of about 4dB at 15.6MHz Leo On 1 Jan 2019, at 17:00, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > From: Mark Goldberg > Leo Bodnar's GPSDOs do

Re: [time-nuts] HP3325B as LO for a transceiver or receiver?

2019-01-02 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
Hi. Usually on a crowded band, to be nice to the RF neighbours (often ourselves!)  Irrespective of the "mode" used, and/or getting the "best" performance (small signal sensitivity) from a receiver. Also, when multiplying/mixing up to microwave frequencies, again for a clean signal. The OP

Re: [time-nuts] Short term 10MHz source

2019-01-02 Thread David G. McGaw
Just inside a window can work for a GPSDO.  One of our labs at Dartmouth has metallic-tinted windows, so for that we hang a little puck antenna just outside.  Not ideal, but it gets signal. David On 1/1/19 11:53 PM, Hal Murray wrote: >> I do realise that the long term stability of the GPSDO