Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The only gotcha I see on that part is the gain spec. If the module really does need 30 to 40 db of gain ahead of it, that antenna does not quite make it. That’s with zero cable loss. Tack on a typical chunk of cable with 6 db of loss and you are even further outside of the uBlox

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Tim Lister
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 12:02 AM Mark Sims wrote: > > That looks like the antenna that I am currently using. The were mentioned > on the list last year, but the cheap ones quickly disappeared and the price > went to $250-$300. The seem to work very well. I get 6-10 mm error > ellipses

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <73db44de-f81e-4a3c-b27a-c9875da91...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: >Once you do replace the TCXO, you then are very dependent on a sawtooth >correction >to run your GPSDO. The PPS becomes one big long hanging bridge and thus is not >useful. Well... If you do not have the

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread David Witten
A competitor to the Tallysman antennas is Taoglas: https://www.taoglas.com/product-category/gps-glonass-gnss/l1-l2-l5-antennas/ 3.0 v, $77.47 direct https://cdn.taoglas.com/datasheets/AQHA.50.A.30.pdf Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, On 2019-01-22 14:10, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The one thing which is missing is a external frequency input. You can get a frequency output in its place, but it does not fully replace the input. That's where the module vs. chip comes in. Consider talking to sparkfun about how they should do

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-22 Thread paul swed
Have 4 HP5360s and even the keyboard and interconnecting cable. I did have to home brew a replacement Nixie assembly for one. (It was missing) I used orange/yellow 7 segment leds that matched the nixie filter very nicely. The same circuit produced an rs 2322 output. Way easier then the 1 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi On a “chip" based setup like this, it’s a matter of pulling the TCXO and putting in some wires. Whatever frequency the TCXO used to supply, that’s what your magic external device needs to provide. The designers do not seem to allow you to provide a variety of input frequencies. Given how

Re: [time-nuts] Metastability

2019-01-22 Thread paul swed
Early in my career while applying for a job as a television engineer I was asked "What is a meta-stable condition and how do you handle it." Had the answers, got the job. Well I am sure it was my charm that did the trick. Maybe not. Chuckle. Liked the insight on the 5138. Have one in the basement

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you wan an external input, the Trimble NetRS shows up from time to time in roughly the same price range. It will do L1 and L2c. If you do go the chip route and supply an external input, the chip’s do not do a cleanup loop on the input. The phase noise specs on the “required” input are

Re: [time-nuts] Help with Novatel OEM6 external oscillator

2019-01-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Simple answer is: 1) (assuming you just want GPS) to try each of the settings and see what gives you the best signal to noise. I’d bet they have very little impact if you have a good oscillator. 2) If you are building a GPSDO, the only useful setting is USER. There it’s a matter of

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox Neo M8T no output on TP2 question please?

2019-01-22 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello Time Nuts! Sunday, January 20, 2019 Thanks for all the replies, I am now in e-mail contact with Alexander at the sellers place. He asked last night if there's a jumper on the underside of the GPS board. At first I thought there was a tiny SMC resistor or capacitor. It was in an

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
>The one thing which is missing is a external frequency input. You can >get a frequency output in its place, but it does not fully replace the >input. That's where the module vs. chip comes in. Consider talking to sparkfun about how they should do the next version ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp

[time-nuts] Help with Novatel OEM6 external oscillator

2019-01-22 Thread Skip Withrow
Hello Time-Nuts, Hopefully, this doesn't get too long. What I desire to do is hook up an external oscillator to a Novatel OEM6 series dual-band GPS receiver. Sounds easy. But, Novatel has four fixed (TCXO, OCXO, rubidium, cesium) plus a USER specifications to model the external clock

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, The one thing which is missing is a external frequency input. You can get a frequency output in its place, but it does not fully replace the input. That's where the module vs. chip comes in. Very tempted to try one out. Cheers, Magnus On 2019-01-22 01:42, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi At least

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business

2019-01-22 Thread Bob via time-nuts
Hi I still have a 524 with a 500 MHz plugin sitting in one of my sheds.  I used to keep a fairly large house fan aimed at the critter to keep it from tripping its Klixon thermal overload switch.  A they were the days indeed.   Bob KE6F -Original Message- From: Dave Mallery To:

[time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Mark Sims
That looks like the antenna that I am currently using. The were mentioned on the list last year, but the cheap ones quickly disappeared and the price went to $250-$300. The seem to work very well. I get 6-10 mm error ellipses using L1/L2 GPS on a Trimble NetRS. They have no problem with

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-22 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <9cc8db95-438a-4491-89db-b55e22996...@n1k.org>, Bob kb8tq writes: >At least at this point things like sawtooth correction outputs are still a >“who knows if there is one” >kind of thing. Doing a GPSDO and not having sawtooth corrected out is sort of >a letdown …. >Stuff gets