[time-nuts] Auto-fail-over switch

2019-02-04 Thread Jeff Blaine
Wondered if anyone had seen some sort of gadget that would look to see if there was a 10 Mhz signal and switch a relay (or provide some other output) in the absence?  I would like to cook up some sort of fail over switch without having to do much actual work. :) 73/jeff/ac0c

Re: [time-nuts] 10 mhz accuracy for a satellite system

2019-02-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi One thing to watch on the TBolts - the ocxo’s used in them got better as the years went by. An early one likely will not do quite as well as a later one. They also updated the firmware as time went by, same basic issue - later is probably better …. Bob > On Feb 4, 2019, at 8:51 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] 10 mhz accuracy for a satellite system

2019-02-04 Thread Richard Solomon
There have been some Trimble Thunderbolts over on that auction site that were being sold for $80 each (not surplus Telcom ones). I grabbed two and they work. My antenna was a "hockey puck" style antenna sitting on the window sash, facing South. 73, Dick, W1KSZ Sent from

Re: [time-nuts] Si5351B

2019-02-04 Thread D. Jeff Dionne
On Feb 4, 2019, at 14:25, Achim Gratz wrote: > The Si5351 needs something between 25MHz and 27MHz as reference. That isn't true. Even the B version works just fine with a OCXO input directly. See my thread here:

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO PLL gains?

2019-02-04 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The bumps you are seeing are likely due to some sort of filtering in the EFC input to the oscillator you are trying to lock up. 100 Hz is not all that uncommon for a filter cap rolling off noise on the EFC line. Indeed it can be from other things, it’s just a guess…. Bob > On Feb 4, 2019,

Re: [time-nuts] Behavior of a disciplined rubidium oscillator?

2019-02-04 Thread John Miles
Said at JLT isn't currently on the list so I'll forward his input: -- . It looks like you are measuring the output of the OCXO or TCXO inside the LN Rb. That unit has a tempco spec of 20ppb over its operating temperature, the Rubidium is much much better of course (up to

Re: [time-nuts] Si5351B

2019-02-04 Thread Achim Gratz
[typo in subject corrected] John Ackermann N8UR writes: > On 2/3/19 11:48 AM, Achim Gratz wrote: > I've been playing with the SiLabs 53xx series chips. There are two > that are quite interesting for time-nuts. I am really trying to go for the octal output parts. :-) I'd rather use the

Re: [time-nuts] 10 mhz accuracy for a satellite system

2019-02-04 Thread Grant Hodgson
Paul The keyword is GPSDO - GPS disciplined oscillator. The vast majority of these will give a 10MHz output. The long term accuracy is the same as the GPS navigation system, which for most purposes is similar to that of national standards. GPSDOs are more stable than most rubidium

Re: [time-nuts] Fw: OCXO PLL gains?

2019-02-04 Thread Anders Wallin
I played around with this today, recording 5 minute runs: freerunning, P/10 gain, P gain, 10x P gain (where P is some unknown value...) I then added either a 1M/100n or 500k/100n integrator which really only shows in the TDEV-plot, not in the PN-plot. https://photos.app.goo.gl/V9xL5MkVsL6RLRXJ7