Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-06-25 Thread Glen English VK1XX
Hi Bob RRR. In fact  all my original GPSDOs in the '90s were FLLs, for radio comms gear, essentially frequency counters with the error driving a PI loop. They were controlling standard XOs. For new engineers, if they want a project to teach them many skills, I recommend a GPSDO project from

Re: [time-nuts] announcing NTPsec 1.1.4, with NTS

2019-06-25 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
From: Hal Murray [] time-nuts@lists.febo.com said: Where is the Windows version, please, and does it support the PPS and loopback PPS drivers? There is no Windows version. The code is mostly clean POSIX. If anybody is familiar with running POSIX/Unix code on Windows, please poke me off list.

Re: [time-nuts] 8663 Oscillator Tuning

2019-06-25 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you want to use the OCXO stand alone, you can tune it closer. If it’s part of a GPSDO, your only alternative is to rewrite the firmware in the unit. 1x10^-12 is about as good as it gets frequency wise on a GPSDO so there isn’t a lot of “hope” if you do dive into the code. Bob > On Jun

Re: [time-nuts] announcing NTPsec 1.1.4, with NTS

2019-06-25 Thread Hal Murray
time-nuts@lists.febo.com said: > Where is the Windows version, please, and does it support the PPS and > loopback PPS drivers? There is no Windows version. The code is mostly clean POSIX. If anybody is familiar with running POSIX/Unix code on Windows, please poke me off list. -- These

[time-nuts] 8663 Oscillator Tuning

2019-06-25 Thread Chris Burford
I have an Oscilloquartz 8663-XS DOCXO in a generic eBay GPSDO. I would like to fine tune the output to get it a little closer to MHz. At current it appears to be running at 9.93x10^-13 at t1000. I'm clocking it against a PRS10C RFS using a TICC and TimeLab. Specifically I'm looking for the

Re: [time-nuts] DSAC launches tonight

2019-06-25 Thread jimlux
On 6/24/19 11:33 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message <89d7213a-30a8-de38-a150-fc22ec733...@earthlink.net>, jimlux writes: and, as well, COSMIC-2 is being deployed - 6 satellites each carrying a fancy GPS receiver that does two things: Precision Orbit Determination (POD) using a

Re: [time-nuts] Subject: Re: GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-06-25 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi In a GPSDO, an FLL can be done with no “cycle slips” between readings. In that case, the I term will indeed correct for long term errors. The net result will be effectively the same as a PLL for long term error. That is by no means to say that *all* FLL’s are done this way. Only that it is