Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Scott McGrath
+1 for powerpole connectors and purchasing a proper ratcheting crimper for the powerpoles. AND being willing to discard marginal crimps. Content by Scott Typos by Siri On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:38 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: There are locks you can get. I saw them on Mountain West today. Bill

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Not a perfect solution, but for semi-permanent connections you can run a small tie-wrap lengthwise so the ends pass through the space between where the wires on each end split and the body.  Cinch it tight and the connectors won't come apart without cutting the tie wrap. On Oct 4, 2019, 7:04

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread MLewis
It works, but note that folding the conductor over to fill the crimp fails NASA's workmanship standards. I'd expect that trick with the thicker wire would too. On 04/10/2019 5:07 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that!

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread W7SLS - Scott Scheirman
Many ways to lock them Insert a small 3”? tie wrap from one hole to the other, or use those twist ties that usb and power cables ship with, or use the locking mechanisms from WMR, and/or ... Good luck whatever you decide is right for your situation Scott Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4,

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Bill Dailey
There are locks you can get. I saw them on Mountain West today. Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 6:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I used to use power pole, too but they don't lock firmly enough for my liking.  So I don't use them anymore.  It would be perfect if there is an option to add positive locking mechanism of some kind. --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday,

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Paul Bicknell
Hi where the wire is too thin for the crimp I actually strip the wire to long and fold it half One reason to crimp is so there is not a hard line for a fracture IE a point for the cable to brake By soldering the joint you actually introduce a potential fracture point It's all my time

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Bill Dailey
Thanks to all. I know what to do now. Appreciated. I am finally getting to the point where I can start playing again. Work and life has been exceptionally busy. I am excited to build a new bench right. Anderson it is, powerwerx and or west mountain and stick to standards. I will search

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread djl
Long ago and far away, I did read that a large(60% or so) of failures in ww2 style equipment was due to wire breakage right at the terminal, that is solder wicking into stranded wire. The very careful wire wrap through holes or around terminals did nothing. Power pole connectors do not have

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Martin Flynn
Wire Ferrules are the best way to use thin wire in a powerpole http://www.ferrulesdirect.com/electrical/NonInsFerr2620.htm On 10/4/2019 5:07 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
The idea of using a short piece of thicker wire is a good one. Thanks for that! On 10/4/19 3:17 PM, MLewis wrote: > With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible > connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, > but may go undetected until failure. If

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread W7SLS - Scott Scheirman
Perhaps piling on, but be sure to adopt the “ARES standard” (same as rig runner) for your 12 v power poles ( so you don’t blow up your or their equipment, when a friend visits S Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 4, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Didier Juges wrote: > > That's what I do too. I do use Power

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread jimlux
On 10/4/19 12:17 PM, MLewis wrote: With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread jimlux
On 10/4/19 8:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a bunch of other vendors as well.  And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. +++10 -- the right crimping tool is a godsend. There's

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <5d979ac0.80...@rogers.com>, MLewis writes: >With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible >connections. Dabbling in audio-homoepathy are we ? No, don't bother responding unless you have a reference to peer-reviewed scientific documentation for you

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread MLewis
With audio signals, a soldered crimp is one of the worst possible connections. I wouldn't think it would be different for anything else, but may go undetected until failure. If you've used the correct size of crimp and used a proper crimping tool, then you've got the proper pressure for a

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Peter Laws
On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 2:01 PM John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: > > West Mountain is a good source for all things PowerPole, but there are a > bunch of other vendors as well. And do youself a favor -- spend $30 on the > three size 15/30/45 amp crimping tool. It saves much aggravation. But if >

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <119811778.3750152.1570204871...@mail.yahoo.com>, Taka Kamiya via ti me-nuts writes: >Mine is very simple >USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for 24V >None of them are high power devices. Yes, I forgot to mention that too: I have very

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread W7SLS
>> But if you're using thin wire, soldering after crimping is a good precaution Good advice. Another way is to put in an extra wire (or fold over the thin wire) so as to “fill up” the power pole before you crimp it. Scott W7SLS > On Oct 4, 2019, at 8:41 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: > >

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Didier Juges
That's what I do too. I do use Power Pole for my ham stuff that draws high current but for all the <2A 12V stuff the 5.1mm barrel connector with positive center is hard to beat because I have so many power sources and equipment already wired for it. I am not ready to rewire all the off the shelf

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
Mine is very simple USB connector for 5VBarrel connector 5.5/2.1mm for 12VTerminal strip for 24V None of them are high power devices. --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday, October 4, 2019, 2:03:55 AM EDT, Bill Dailey wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Bill Dailey
Yes. I am using 12v agm. Good wmr for the connectors also? Bill Dailey Negativity always wins the short game. But positivity wins the long game. - Gary Vaynerchuk Don’t be easy to understand, Be impossible to misunderstand - Steve Sims > On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:17 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread W7SLS
Anderson Power Poles / West Mountain Radio <— agree. fantastic avail 15A, 30 A, 45A, … 175A, and more Blue Sea Systems marine products are great also example: ammeters with shunt in positive rail My .02 Scott W7SLS > On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:56 AM, Tim Shoppa wrote: > > I

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread jimlux
On 10/3/19 6:58 PM, Bill Dailey wrote: Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use something neat and not real expensive

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Paul Bicknell
Hi I am standardising on 4 pin XLR connectors for 12 Volts as used in the TV industry Perhaps you could use the 6 pin for 5 volts I do not recommend the 2 pin as this is for 240 V ac Or the 3 pin as you could take out a microphone I am going to be Using military connectors for 24 V DC and 400

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Tim Shoppa
I want to recommend Anderson Powerpoles for DC distribution too. A trillion times better than all the incompatible molexes. And those West Mountain Radio multi fused splitters are exactly what you want for splitters. In addition to the WMR splitters, bare PCBs for building up your own are

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread John Ackermann. N8UR
I use lots and lots of Anderson PowerPoles and (mostly) West Mountain Radio distribution units.  I have different color codes for different voltages -- red/black for 12v, orange/black for 24v, green/black for 5v, etc.  Primary 12 and 24 volt sources are big AGM batteries across float chargers.

Re: [time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <36676b65-57b2-4b2d-94d6-326385ce5...@gmail.com>, Bill Dailey writes : I use http://www.westmountainradio.com/rigrunner.php -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe

[time-nuts] FA2 internal OCXO warm-up time

2019-10-04 Thread Mark Sims
I did a test of the FA2 internal OCXO warm up time. I powered mine down for 4 fours and then powered it up and measured the frequency as it warmed up. It looks like it takes 45 minutes to stabilize. Note that it took a week of constant power for the oscillator drift rate to settle down.

[time-nuts] DC distribution

2019-10-04 Thread Bill Dailey
Setting up a new workbench and am wondering what wisdom people can offer. I am powering numerous synthesizers (5v), small receivers (5v), Upconverters (5v), larger receivers (12v), fury Gpsdo’s.. etc. anyone use something neat and not real expensive for distributing 5v and 12v. I am hoping