[time-nuts] New Member GPS NMEATime Trouble

2020-04-17 Thread TG9AJR Juan Munoz
Hello everyone, I'm new to this list but also I'm new to all of this GPS timing world, all do used GPS before but as a regular GPS user. I bought on Amazon a couple of USB GPS: U-BLOX UB-6010 GlobalSat BU-353-S4 I also have registered version of NMEATime version 2.0.25 running on Windows 10

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Dana Whitlow
Seems to me that both GPS receivers and Ligado's transmitters are going to need the "brick-wall" filters. I wonder how lossy such filters will be when sized to fit in handheld GPS receivers, smart phones, and (especially) GPS watches. On the other hand, it may be that many time-nuts will not

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread jimlux
On 4/17/20 2:04 PM, Taka Kamiya via time-nuts wrote: The original article said 9.8dBW.  I guess 10 WATTS?  Kind of unusual unit expression dBW it is. It's what's used in transmitter license filings, since most transmitters are Watts, kilowatts, or megawatts. Very few licenses issued for

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread djl
And the competition has/is putting up a gazillion cubesats to screw up another of my little pleasures, astronomy. Bah. It's enough to make you want to go out and stand right next to somebody. Don On 2020-04-17 14:37, Scott McGrath wrote: That was +9.8 on the terrrestrial microcell

[time-nuts] ESE ES-185A GPS Master Clock

2020-04-17 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Ohio eBay reseller selling items from an old television/ recording station estate. He has dropped the initial price for this GPS Master Clock, and is accepting offers. ESE ES-185A GPS Master Clock (used), eBay auction number: 264676519970 The ESE ES-185A Master Clock is an older model. The

Re: [time-nuts] Need a Project?

2020-04-17 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Kevin, Those Masterclock units sold out yesterday evening. The HS units had an OCXO. I have no idea what the seller’s inclusion of “K60” in auction referenced. Freescale‘s Kinetics K60 ARM processor is used in some NTP appliances.

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
The original article said 9.8dBW.  I guess 10 WATTS?  Kind of unusual unit expression --- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday, April 17, 2020, 4:38:36 PM EDT, Scott McGrath wrote: That was +9.8 on the terrrestrial microcell

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Hal Murray
d...@montana.com said: > It's all about imaginary brick wall bandpass filters. You mean the ones that magically appear in all the installed gear? When the FCC allocates spectrum, do they say anything about how long that slot is good for? I'm interested in both formal and informal

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Scott McGrath
That was +9.8 on the terrrestrial microcell transmitters, Yes this seems to have been sold with the assurance that the magic brickwall filters with 100db/octave slope will be included in every one. But the asian manufacturer of said devices will neglect to include them and juice the power

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread ew via time-nuts
All three seam to be Chinese customer specific devices with focus on time. I bought three of the Trimble units we call them Tbolt 2 because of design similarities. On LH you will notice one thing like the original Tbolt it shows frequency jumps of 1 E -10 but also once every hour it does a

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Was that +9.8 or -98 dbm ? :) At -98 they probably *could* coexist with GPS. Not real clear how well there system would work at that level though. Bob > On Apr 17, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Scott McGrath wrote: > > Supposedly lowering Tx power on terrestrial network from +23 DBm to +9.8 DBm >

Re: [time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread djl
It's all about imaginary brick wall bandpass filters. On 2020-04-17 11:37, Scott McGrath wrote: Supposedly lowering Tx power on terrestrial network from +23 DBm to +9.8 DBm will make everything better. Ajit Pai is listening only to carriers and ignoring DoD who is stating it will

[time-nuts] LightSquared is back now called Ligado

2020-04-17 Thread Scott McGrath
Supposedly lowering Tx power on terrestrial network from +23 DBm to +9.8 DBm will make everything better. Ajit Pai is listening only to carriers and ignoring DoD who is stating it will significantly degrade and/or make useless the GPS system. Not to mention ADS-B which was installed at

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread Matthias Welwarsky
On Freitag, 17. April 2020 16:04:15 CEST Steve - Home wrote: > There are some Chinese GPSDOs currently on eBay, containing a Symmetricom > 10MHz oscillator and a Furuno GT-8031 GPS receiver. Has anyone had any > experience with them? It’s hard to tell from the pictures what the power >

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi GPSDO’s come from China for a very simple reason: All the world’s scrap gear is sent to China for “reclamation”. It’s just another element in the great flow of material being recycled. For a variety of reasons China is the destination of choice for electronics scrap. Like it or not,

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread Paul Alfille
Leo Bodnar (Great Britain) makes some nice GPSDO devices for reasonable prices, albeit TXCO. http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info=107_id=234 On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 10:53 AM Tobias Pluess wrote: > I wonder why the only (or at least, most of the) GPSDOs one can find on

Re: [time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread Tobias Pluess
I wonder why the only (or at least, most of the) GPSDOs one can find on eBay are from China. Is there a reason for that? I would like to buy used GPSDOs and OCXOs from other sources because the stuff from China is often of doubtful pedigree and I would never 100% trust one of those. They often

[time-nuts] Chinese GPSDOs

2020-04-17 Thread Steve - Home
There are some Chinese GPSDOs currently on eBay, containing a Symmetricom 10MHz oscillator and a Furuno GT-8031 GPS receiver. Has anyone had any experience with them? It’s hard to tell from the pictures what the power requirements are. I know the GT-8031 is an older 8-channel receiver. I was