Re: [time-nuts] Help needed with frequency standard

2020-09-29 Thread Dana Whitlow
Mark: I don't have a PPS syncable PRS-10 yet, but will probably be getting one within a year or so. My expectations are not great, however, because I already know that the received GPS time has diurnal wiggles to the tune of up to 10's of nsec p-p. And I also know that the PRS-10 (and probably

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 194, Issue 45 Low lamp voltage Rb

2020-09-29 Thread paul swed
As Andre suggests I have used the hot air approach several times it works. You should be able to see the Rb plated on the glass either as darkening or actual metal if its really bad. Search time nuts for details its come up several times. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:28 PM Andre

Re: [time-nuts] What do people use for measuring temperature?

2020-09-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The gotcha with *any* SMT part is that stress / strain from the soldering process gets into the performance of the part for a *long* time. There is no mechanical “buffering” in most parts. Whatever the PCB does is what the guts of the part sees …. Given the popularity here on the list of

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 194, Issue 45 Low lamp voltage Rb

2020-09-29 Thread Andre
What about using a the hot-air gun technique to migrate the Rb from the walls of the lamp back to the well? David -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On Behalf Of Bob kb8tq Sent: 28 September 2020 14:23 To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] What do people use for measuring temperature?

2020-09-29 Thread John Moran, Scawby Design
Final input from me on this topic. The surprising, to everyone, result from the research paper referenced in the eevblog - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/metrology/long-term-stability-of-temperature-sensors/?action=dlattach;attach=412153 Was that the cheapest thermistor had a drift of less than

Re: [time-nuts] Help needed with frequency standard

2020-09-29 Thread ew via time-nuts
Look at the SRS FS740 and you get an idea how "good" the PRS10 Rb is! Bert Kehren In a message dated 9/29/2020 2:22:13 PM Eastern Standard Time, m...@alignedsolutions.com writes:  I would be curious to hear from those who have a GPS disciplined PRS 10 in their home time labs.  I was never

Re: [time-nuts] Help needed with frequency standard

2020-09-29 Thread Mark Spencer
I would be curious to hear from those who have a GPS disciplined PRS 10 in their home time labs. I was never that impressed with the performance of one of mine in that configuration from a 10 MHz ADEV perspective (I did try making a few parameter changes.) I ended up essentially free running

Re: [time-nuts] New member, new old 4040A with PSU failure

2020-09-29 Thread Gregory Beat via time-nuts
Yes, it looks like the Radial electrolytic capacitor (1000 uF, 15V), next to transformer, also received more heat. Clean board area with isopropyl alcohol. I would highly suggest you look at the Panasonic EEU FK series (Digi-Key stocks), or other equivalent Panasonic 105° series

Re: [time-nuts] Help needed with frequency standard

2020-09-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You have a lot of stuff that runs off of GPS L1. Any “common mode” issues (like ionospheric disturbances) will propagate into all of them. What impact that has on each one is very much a “that depends” sort of thing. The firmware and filtering quickly get into the act …. They all will wander,

[time-nuts] Help needed with frequency standard

2020-09-29 Thread Luiz Alberto Saba
Hi guys I want a stable & reliable frequency standard. I do NOT have a cesium beam. I DO have a lot of gpsdos and some rubidiums. Since I have one PRS-10 and this device has a 1 pps input, you already know what I'm thinking... What I have: Trimble Thunderbolt Trimble UCCM Symmetricom

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A internal PSU questions

2020-09-29 Thread paul swed
Tim Yes indeed the supply can be a problem. They do seem to fail over the years. I lost one of the brick converters. It was easily replaced with a reasonable alternate. Also there is essentially a preregulator that can have issues. None of this terribly hard to fix or get around. Especially if you

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A internal PSU questions

2020-09-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Trace around the input filter. There are coils there that may go open. There are also a couple of board mount fuses that pop from time to time. Bob > On Sep 29, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Tim Tuck wrote: > > And as soon as I posted this I found what I was looking for on KO4BB's > website - I

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3805A internal PSU questions

2020-09-29 Thread Tim Tuck
And as soon as I posted this I found what I was looking for  on KO4BB's website - I forgot that the z3805 is basically the same as a Z3801. So the fault finding continues. cheers Tim On 29/9/20 8:38 pm, Tim Tuck wrote: Hi all, I have a Z3805A that has failed. The internal power supply

[time-nuts] HP Z3805A internal PSU questions

2020-09-29 Thread Tim Tuck
Hi all, I have a Z3805A that has failed. The internal power supply board is at fault in that there is nothing on P3. I was wondering if anyone had schematic or more detail on it or ideas about a common fault for the board. any help appreciated. thanks Tim