Re: [time-nuts] phase noise webinar from IEEE MTT-S

2020-10-13 Thread Bill Notfaded
I attended too. This guy is so theoretical it was kinda hard to put into practical terms but I will say after reading some of his book he does understand some novel ways to calculate what's needed for reaching lower noise levels. Bill On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:51 PM Attila Kinali wrote: > On

Re: [time-nuts] Synthesizers for Rb standards (was: Aging 5065A ?)

2020-10-13 Thread ew via time-nuts
Most Rb's have a filter prior to the multiplier forcing you to make major modifications to the cell.                                                                                                                                                                                                   

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-13 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Time Nuts, Paul, I haven't gone over in fine detail of how the multipsk software is working - so I'd like to answer with that caveat if that's OK. I thought it was more interesting that I got anything working as far as 60kHz with my existing OpenHPSDR rig AND my default antenna. The system

Re: [time-nuts] phase noise webinar from IEEE MTT-S

2020-10-13 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 12:46:46 -0500 "Bill Byrom" wrote: > I just attended this webinar. It focused on oscillator design > theory and the results the author had achieved for various > specific projects. He discussed in general amplitude limiting to > reduce amplitude noise, with the result that

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB Dephaser Question

2020-10-13 Thread paul swed
John I looked at what you sent. I assume its decoding the am time signal is that correct? On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 1:19 PM Chris Howard wrote: > > That's a fair assessment. I'm really not very far into SDR programming, > would like to learn more. > > I was working with someone who gave me a way

Re: [time-nuts] phase noise webinar from IEEE MTT-S

2020-10-13 Thread Bill Byrom
I just attended this webinar. It focused on oscillator design theory and the results the author had achieved for various specific projects. He discussed in general amplitude limiting to reduce amplitude noise, with the result that we only need to worry about phase noise in most cases. Very

[time-nuts] Synthesizers for Rb standards (was: Aging 5065A ?)

2020-10-13 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 7 Oct 2020 10:22:43 -0400 Bob kb8tq wrote: > People have successfully mounted eBay synthesizers in 5065’s. They work > and it is one way to take care of that. Some time ago, I had a "quick" look on how I would design a synthesizer for an Rb vapor cell standard. The way I came up with

Re: [time-nuts] What's available in the way of DSP for new WWVB?

2020-10-13 Thread paul swed
Graham take a look earlier in the thread there are details about the teensy. There is actually a lot of hardware out there today for little money. Thats what makes the SDR DSP approach interesting and for me at least the next thing to take a run at. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at

Re: [time-nuts] What's available in the way of DSP for new WWVB?

2020-10-13 Thread Graham / KE9H
There are inexpensive CODECs or A-->D converters that are designed for audio, that can be clocked up to 192 ksps or 200 ksps with 24 bit resolution. (Typically 18 or 19 effective bits, 3.0 V p-to-p full scale) They have built in Nyquist filters that scale with the sampling frequency, so a Nyquist