Re: [time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Lux, Jim
On 2/7/21 3:28 PM, Dana Whitlow wrote: Not daft at all, Andy. Closely related would be measurements of phase change between near the switched load and far away, over a stretch of a few system time constants. This would be more challenging, but perhaps doable. Dana K8YUM If you happen to

Re: [time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 08.02.21 um 00:11 schrieb Philip Gladstone: As an amateur radio guy, I can't help wondering whether I could use this as a *very* low bit rate channel across the country. I have done navigation _for_ tv and phone sats, and the spread navigation signals are just 20 dB under the MPEG data

Re: [time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Dana Whitlow
Not daft at all, Andy. Closely related would be measurements of phase change between near the switched load and far away, over a stretch of a few system time constants. This would be more challenging, but perhaps doable. Dana K8YUM On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 3:44 PM Andy Talbot wrote: > The UK

Re: [time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Philip Gladstone
As an amateur radio guy, I can't help wondering whether I could use this as a *very* low bit rate channel across the country. Philip On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 4:44 PM Andy Talbot wrote: > The UK has a standalone frequency locked grid supply, nominal 50Hz, which > typically wanders +/- about

[time-nuts] Daft idea with the National Grid

2021-02-07 Thread Andy Talbot
The UK has a standalone frequency locked grid supply, nominal 50Hz, which typically wanders +/- about 0.15Hz RMS over several minutes , with occasional short-lived excursions out to 0.2 or 0.3Hz. Average number of cycles per period generally is normalised to 50Hz after a few days. The typical

Re: [time-nuts] History of HP Mercury Clocks Digest, Vol 199, Issue 6

2021-02-07 Thread Demetrios Matsakis via time-nuts
Richard’s description is close. They were shipped to the USNO in the mid-80s, and they didn’t work well. I was the only physicist there at the time, and was asked to take time off from VLBI and Earth rotation to work on it. That’s how I entered the timekeeping world. My contribution was to

Re: [time-nuts] Some old Time & Frequency stuff for sale, eastern Ontario, Canada

2021-02-07 Thread paul swed
Well that was fun looking up the radios and those are very fine prices. I agree with Bob that the heavier tube receivers will be a fair shipping charge. But as Martin wisely says come pick it up. Good luck to some lucky person. Regards Paul. WB8TSL On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 9:50 AM Bob kb8tq wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Some old Time & Frequency stuff for sale, eastern Ontario, Canada

2021-02-07 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There’s six pretty big gizmos there. My local UPS store would charge me $20 to $30 a box to pack each of them (and barely do an adequate job). Looking up shipping rates from here to there, each of the 6 packages would run about $70 to ship. Net would likely be in the $400 to $600 range.

Re: [time-nuts] Some old Time & Frequency stuff for sale, eastern Ontario, Canada

2021-02-07 Thread John Franke
I would pay $250, via PayPal, including shipping, if you would ship the pile. If not, I would understand. I figured I had to at least give it a shot. John Franke WA4WDL 4500 Ibis Ct Portsmouth, VA 23703 > On February 6, 2021 at 10:34 PM Martin VE3OAT wrote: > > > > Trying to down-size a

Re: [time-nuts] Anybody plotted the ADEV of a V8 idle speed?

2021-02-07 Thread Tom Holmes
Idle speed is simply controlled to an rpm value, which thus makes it tied, loosely, to the CPU clock. The phase noise is quite awful, by anyone's standards, mainly because the parameters measured to control fuel and spark timing, are noisy. Tom Holmes, N8ZM -Original Message- From: