[time-nuts] Re: Crystal sweet-spot (was: Best frequency to start for GHz synth ?)

2021-04-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A “modern” 5 MHz 5th overtone AT cut resonator *should* be able to hit a Q of 5 million. Indeed one has to do everything right to hit that number. More or less it is the design that “defines” the Q of a bar of quartz. (Yes, there’s more to it …..). Since that part uses a blank that is

[time-nuts] Re: Crystal sweet-spot (was: Best frequency to start for GHz synth ?)

2021-04-05 Thread Alan Melia via time-nuts
Bob somewhere buried in my collection of interesting bits I have a rather battered demo sample of what the British GPO Research crystal labs refered to as an Essen Ring. It is indeed around 3 inches in outer diameter and almost an inch thick and wide. this would have been cut from natural

[time-nuts] Re: Voltage Regulator

2021-04-05 Thread Shawn
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 22:30 +0200, Attila Kinali wrote: > On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 08:36:28 -0700 > Shawn wrote: > > > Tried putting an LM317 regulator in the line to drop the 30V supply > > to > > 10-12V and the power dissapation is beyond the heatsinking I have > > that'll fit, also seems wasteful.

[time-nuts] Re: Crystal sweet-spot (was: Best frequency to start for GHz synth ?)

2021-04-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Back it the “old days” ( so 1960’s in this case ) glass packages were very commonly used for precision crystals. They were available in large diameters ( think of transmitting sized vacuum tubes). This allowed use of larger diameter blanks than what fit in today’s much smaller packages.

[time-nuts] non-cryogenic sapphire oscillators (was: Best frequency to start for GHz synth ?)

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 01 Apr 2021 11:06:43 -0500 Chris Caudle <6807.ch...@pop.powweb.com> wrote: > What kind of oven temperature range? I thought sapphire oscillator was > pretty much synonymous with "cryogenic sapphire oscillator." I found a > paper which described sapphire as a "low loss material with

[time-nuts] Re: PN measurement thesis published

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:04:01 +0200 Hendrik wrote: > I just realized a friend published her thesis on phase-noise measurement > on her blog (in german): > > http://www.stefanie-engelhard.de/sites/default/files/2019-03/Diplomarbeit_Stefanie_Engelhard_0.pdf I recently stumbled over this thesis and

[time-nuts] Re: Voltage Regulator

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sat, 03 Apr 2021 08:36:28 -0700 Shawn wrote: > Tried putting an LM317 regulator in the line to drop the 30V supply to > 10-12V and the power dissapation is beyond the heatsinking I have > that'll fit, also seems wasteful. I have a switcher thatll fit the > bill but amd concerned about the

[time-nuts] Crystal sweet-spot (was: Best frequency to start for GHz synth ?)

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 16:44:40 + "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > It used to be that 5MHz was the "hot spot" for crystals on the > parameters we care about as time-nuts. Depends on what kind of time-nut you are ;-) If you are going for high frequencies beyond 1GHz, then a mesa type high

[time-nuts] Re: NPR: Researchers Are One Step Closer To Redefining The Second

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 08:15:30 + "Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote: > In one of his lectures Feynmann mentions that the energy levels of > hydrogen have been calculated to 15 or 16 digits "from first > principles". > > As far as I can figure out, that must have happened in the 1970'ies, > which means

[time-nuts] Re: Long term ADEV of 5071

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
Hoi Demetrios, Sorry for the late answer, last week was a bit crazy. On Sat, 27 Mar 2021 09:58:30 -0400 Demetrios Matsakis via time-nuts wrote: > I’ve attached an old paper of mine, from PTTI-2000. Thanks! I hadn't seen this paper yet. > I’ve also attached the latest BIPM file of TT. If

[time-nuts] Re: Primary frequency standard

2021-04-05 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:42:25 -0700 wrote: > "It would be cool to say one has a "primary standard", So, I think > we should be careful with the term, it's get thrown around too lightly." > > Any of the hobby grade used Cesium standards is actually a Primary > frequency standard as it does

[time-nuts] PN measurement thesis published

2021-04-05 Thread Hendrik
Hello all, I just realized a friend published her thesis on phase-noise measurement on her blog (in german): http://www.stefanie-engelhard.de/sites/default/files/2019-03/Diplomarbeit_Stefanie_Engelhard_0.pdf Best regards, Hendrik ___ time-nuts