[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread Dana Whitlow
Skipp, Several responders have correctly referred to the "noise floor", but I believe that none have said what level that is. And it's not trivial to say so, either, because it is dependent on the extent to which the antenna under test sees the sky and ignores blackbody radiation from the

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread Andy Talbot
The first generation GPS were, IIRC, 50 Watts, +17dBW EIRP. The latest one are higher power at up to 200W, or 23dBW EIRP If you go through the link budget calculations, and assume a receiver with a good noise figure, you can show that with a ground station antenna of more than about 36dBi gain

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 20.08.21 um 22:14 schrieb skipp isaham via time-nuts: Hello to the Group, I picked a box of used (removed from commercial radio APRS type service) mobile/vehicle GPS Antennas. They are mostly the classic square molded, black plastic magnetic mount type, about the size of a bar of soap

[time-nuts] Re: Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The GPS signals are spread spectrum transmissions. If you look for them with a normal spectrum analyzer they are 10’s of db’s below the noise floor. Yes, that’s a bit weird, but it does work. Your gizmos may or may not include a preamp. First thing I’d do is take a look at current into the

[time-nuts] Testing a GPS mag mount antenna

2021-08-20 Thread skipp isaham via time-nuts
Hello to the Group, I picked a box of used (removed from commercial radio APRS type service) mobile/vehicle GPS Antennas. They are mostly the classic square molded, black plastic magnetic mount type, about the size of a bar of soap when cut to square (2/3 the size of a large bar of soap).

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-20 Thread paul swed
The chip will still work. Its just a AM receiver and you get the AM timecode bits out. It has no value as some sort of reference without removing the BPSK signal that NIST put on. Lots of posts on that stuff back in 2012-2015. Good luck. Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 9:09 PM Robert

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-20 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi OCXO59 package. Likely the 11th OEM version in that package done in 2002. Specs could be just about anything. Like pretty much all oscillator companies, they would build to the OEM’s custom spec. A few OEM’s want their name on the part ( Trimble, Efratom and Symmetericom come to mind )

[time-nuts] Re: Isotemp OCXO question

2021-08-20 Thread Keelan Lightfoot
Internet Archive to the rescue! https://web.archive.org/web/19990506093727/http://www.isotemp.com/ocxo59.htm According to that page, the OCXO59 series is available in 5 MHz to 50 MHz... So a 1MHz version may have been an OEM version. >From a later archive of their site, here's a PDF datasheet