[time-nuts] Re: Can ADEV of a frequency source be correctly determined using a continuous time-stamping frequency counter?

2021-11-09 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Let me just mention that when I worked at the HP Santa Clara Division counters section, they came out with a "feature" that they called "continuous count". However, it was limited to something like 3 MHz. So a 100 MHz counter would only continuously count signals below 3 MHz. So you need to

[time-nuts] Re: Can ADEV of a frequency source be correctly determined using a continuous time-stamping frequency counter?

2021-11-09 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi Erik, On 2021-11-09 18:26, Erik Kaashoek wrote: As far as I understood the ADEV at a Tau of 1 second is a statement about the amount of variation to be expected over a one second interval. Rather, the variation of readings of a frequency estimation done over a span over 1 second. It would

[time-nuts] Re: Can ADEV of a frequency source be correctly determined using a continuous time-stamping frequency counter?

2021-11-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
> On Nov 9, 2021, at 12:26 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote: > > As far as I understood the ADEV at a Tau of 1 second is a statement about the > amount of variation to be expected over a one second interval. > It would be nice if we would be able to measure a frequency in an infinite > short

[time-nuts] Re: Can ADEV of a frequency source be correctly determined using a continuous time-stamping frequency counter?

2021-11-09 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The simple answer is that there are no shortcuts allowed if you are after a proper ADEV. You take the (single) phase samples at the specified tau and push them into the math. Anything else you do, will reduce the noise and thus compromise the noise measuring properties of the approach.

[time-nuts] Can ADEV of a frequency source be correctly determined using a continuous time-stamping frequency counter?

2021-11-09 Thread Erik Kaashoek
As far as I understood the ADEV at a Tau of 1 second is a statement about the amount of variation to be expected over a one second interval. It would be nice if we would be able to measure a frequency in an infinite short interval but any frequency measurement takes time. What if the frequency

[time-nuts] Re: GPS Elevation Mask Values.

2021-11-09 Thread Dan Kemppainen
All, a few replies at once... I seemed to remember higher elevation masks than have been recommended, in the 20 or 30 degree range. However the comments seem to be quite low, 7 to 10 to start with. Dana, Trying multiple masks is certainly a good idea. I don't really have another good

[time-nuts] Re: GPS Elevation Mask Values.

2021-11-09 Thread Ryan Stoner
Which antenna did you get? Just wondering, I'm finally moving out of the city and I'll be able to mount something nearly obstruction free! On Mon, Nov 8, 2021, at 18:51, Dan Kemppainen wrote: > Hi All, > > So after a rather long delay, I've managed to get an ebay import dual > band GPS antenna

[time-nuts] Re: Updated TimeHat image (new gpsd!)

2021-11-09 Thread Rob Seaman
Howdy, You may also need to do a “sudo dietpi-software” and install the basic build environment, near the bottom of the long list of packages. If you need to edit config files and such you may need to install your favorite editor. I’m not sure if git is installed by default for dietpi, but you