[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-11-18 Thread Jared Cabot via time-nuts
Hi, Your help is appreciated. We can keep this on-list for now I guess, on the chance it helps someone in the future. Jared. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, November 19th, 2021 at 08:25, paul swed wrote: > Jared I would be happy to see if I can help remotely. We may want to take

[time-nuts] Re: HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-11-18 Thread paul swed
Jared I would be happy to see if I can help remotely. We may want to take this offline or not. Others may find it interesting. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:56 PM Jared Cabot via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a 5065A Rubidium Standard that was

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi This is one of those classic examples of what marketing writes and what (once the beer is poured) engineering actually knows. If you dive into the grubby details of the filtering. Been there / done that with a number of these guys. It’s very much *not* set up for GPS. The hanging bridge

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
Bob, I seem to remember reading in the manual on the PRS-10 where they expounded at length about how they took great pains to make the unit work well with typical noisy GPS PPS input. I'm using a CNS Clock II as my primary GPSDO, checking phase slippage with respect to my PRS-10 to make decisions

[time-nuts] HP 5065A, no 2nd harmonic.

2021-11-18 Thread Jared Cabot via time-nuts
Hi all, I have a 5065A Rubidium Standard that was working ok, but has lost the 2nd harmonic. My voltages are all ok, the physics package hasn't overheated and I have replaced the usual resistors on the lamp assembly (and it was running fine afterward for a while), the lamp illuminates, and

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Bob kb8tq writes: > The 'filter' in the PRS-10 is not really set up for a GPS sort of signal. It is particularly bad at handling GPS's because of the "hanging bridge" phenomena, and the better the GPS, the worse the result... I tried injecting the "negative sawtooth" via the serial

[time-nuts] FS740

2021-11-18 Thread ew via time-nuts
I see the SRS  FS 740  and Morion Rb's and super low Av OCXO's in al my Microwave publications. That seems the market the are after.                                                                                                  Bert Kehren ___

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The 5 Hz (or whatever) switching and the hump definitely both originate in the same “feature” of the design. Does disabling the switching nuke the hump? If one has a PRS-10 I’d say it’s well worth trying. The “filter” in the PRS-10 is not really set up for a GPS sort of signal. It’s

[time-nuts] Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 211, Issue 26

2021-11-18 Thread martyn
Hello, We can do much better ADEV and phase noise than the FS740. But much more expensive 2 to 4 times as much. SRS products are incredibly low price. I can't complete on price but do better with performance and flexibility. Best Regards Martyn

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Dana Whitlow writes: > You did not really answer the basic question: "Does the 2.5 Hz > (or 5 Hz if applicable) C-field reversal cause the 2-sec bump in > the ADEV plot for the PRS-10?". I cannot answer that question as stated. My PRS10 died years ago, all I can say is that when I

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
Poul, You did not really answer the basic question: "Does the 2.5 Hz (or 5 Hz if applicable) C-field reversal cause the 2-sec bump in the ADEV plot for the PRS-10?". BTW, some radio hams are involved with microwave and even MMW communications between mobile stations, and I'd bet they benefit

[time-nuts] Re: FS740 Thoughts?

2021-11-18 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Matt Huszagh writes: > "Poul-Henning Kamp" writes: > > > The PRS-10 switches the polarity of the C-field solenoid at 5Hz to > > cancel out varying external magnetic fields. > > > > If that is not a concern for you, for instance because you use it > > in a stationary application, it can