[time-nuts] Regarding HP 5065A upgrade to 10811-oscillators

2022-02-12 Thread cdelect
Hi, The -60109 usually does have the very good short term stability at short Tau but to actually use it you need to go open loop on the 5065A or 5061A/B. In closed loop the instrument actually drives the stability and pretty much any 10811 variant will work. HP knew this and recommended going

[time-nuts] Re: Help needed IDing GPS antenna

2022-02-12 Thread EB4APL
Hi John, Since TOPCON is a manufacturer of topographic instruments, I think that this antenna is used for this kind of work. GPS antennas made for geodesy or surveying usually have a very good quality and their prices are according to it. But given the label at the bottom it could be used

[time-nuts] Re: Regarding HP 5065A upgrade to 10811-oscillators

2022-02-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Again, there is no basic difference between the 10811-60109 and any other 10811 with the same basic pinout. ( They made two packages, one with an edge connector. Eventually they wrapped one up to put it in a GPSDO). The only difference between the 60109 was a test and select process back

[time-nuts] Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-12 Thread Attila Kinali
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:25:05 -0500 Joseph Gwinn wrote: > May not realize that thermal noise (additive) and phase > noise (multiplicative) are not the same, and do not behave the same. It seems like you are mixing up here quite a few different concepts: Phase noise vs amplitude noise, additive

[time-nuts] Re: Regarding HP 5065A upgrade to 10811-oscillators

2022-02-12 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You just might find that kit will drop into a 5065 with minor mods….. Bob > On Feb 12, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Ke-Fong Lin wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Last month, I bought a 10811-60109 on ebay, it was sold with the > complete oscillator assembly for a 5061A/B cesium clock. > I bought it for

[time-nuts] Re: Regarding HP 5065A upgrade to 10811-oscillators

2022-02-12 Thread Ke-Fong Lin
Hi everyone, Last month, I bought a 10811-60109 on ebay, it was sold with the complete oscillator assembly for a 5061A/B cesium clock. I bought it for the 10811-60109 because it has somewhat better specifications than a regular 10811. It was sold as a spare from military surplus. I've taken a

[time-nuts] Regarding HP 5065A upgrade to 10811-oscillators

2022-02-12 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Greetings forum. Yes - I have performed this upgrade, having obtaineda 10811 / high performance option. While the complete original HP kit was not available, I salvagedthe 10->5 MHz divider/connection board from a 105Band re-designed the back PCB with the 2 x 15pole 3.96 pitch connectors and