[time-nuts] Re: Is SC the most stable cut for lowest phase noise?

2022-06-07 Thread Bob kb8tq via time-nuts
Hi Simple answer is: no. More complete answer is: no There is a lot more to stability than just the crystal cut. Having this or that cut is in no way a guarantee that the result is “better” than some other cut. Indeed there are more exotic cuts than the SC that improve on this or that. There

[time-nuts] Is SC the most stable cut for lowest phase noise?

2022-06-07 Thread Ross P via time-nuts
Hello,My first post.I have created a 64-bit frequency counter, 15.9 digits after converting to floating point. Oscillator random walk is +- 0.01 ppm with an SC cut crystal at 10 Hz filtered, and 0.1 ppm with at cut.Is it the crystal or the oscillator electronics (inside a can) that determines

[time-nuts] Re: Noise down-converter project

2022-06-07 Thread ed breya via time-nuts
Continuing with experiments and spur measurements, I found that closing the lid on the little filter box does seem to reduce the LPF's effectiveness at the higher frequencies, but leaving it open reduces effectiveness at the lower. I can sculpt it to a taller structure if necessary, which

[time-nuts] Re: Turning off display on HP 58503 A or B

2022-06-07 Thread Lon Cottingham via time-nuts
Chris, Thanks for the reply. I have made just such a mod to one of my 58503's. It was in a discussion of this mod that the idea arose that HP had built in such a command. But, no one had actual knowledge of such this hidden command. It was most probably just wishful thinking. Thanks again

[time-nuts] Re: Identifying GPSDO phase disturbers

2022-06-07 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi Erik, On 2022-06-06 19:05, Erik Kaashoek via time-nuts wrote: During measurement  of a  GPSDO there was some concern about very short term phase stability. E.g. for tau between 0.001 and 1 second. It proved to be possible to measure the stability for tau larger than 0.1 s using a frequency

[time-nuts] Re: Build a 3 hat timestanp counter (hans-ge...@lehnard.de)

2022-06-07 Thread Magnus Danielson via time-nuts
Hi, It looks as if you have a higher noise floor with the TLV3501. I see two effects, both higher slope (usually but not always due to gaussian noise) and then also a higher systematic noise. The later could be from power-suppy for instance, but any form of RF and LF frequency pickup. The