[time-nuts] Re: Crystal oscillator for a begginer

2022-01-05 Thread Ben Bradley
The oscillator you linked to has a fixed frequency output. You might prefer to get a vcxo that has a DC control voltage input that will slightly change the output frequency so it can be adjusted to be closer to "exact." This appears to be the least expensive one with a 10MHz output:

[time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room

2021-09-09 Thread Ben Bradley
I've seen discussion of making a seismic vault (though not sure if they used that name, making it harder to find in the haystack of posts) on this mailing list, maybt 15 or 20 years ago, so nut sure if this is helpful: https://www.seismicnet.com/maillist.html For possible immunity from

Re: [time-nuts] World's most precise.... wall clock

2021-03-03 Thread Ben Bradley
This might be desirable. https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-AMATEUR-SCIENTIST-ON-CD-ROM-LATEST-EDITION-VERSION-4-M2071-/112117678275 On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:19 PM Chris Caudle <6807.ch...@pop.powweb.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 02 Mar 2021 22:42:45 -0800 > > Hal Murray wrote: > > > >> The basic idea is

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Counter Choice

2020-11-08 Thread Ben Bradley
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 9:14 AM jimlux wrote: > ... > to be set - for instance, Arduinos work that way: > > digitalWrite(pin#, HIGH) > > I think GPIB would still work if you had to do 8 digitalWrite() calls, > then a final digitalWrite() call to assert DAV. > > > I suspect that for a number of

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for "The Theory and Design of Quartz Crystal Units" by V.Bottom

2020-10-24 Thread Ben Bradley
On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 10:55 PM Wes wrote: > Not exactly the same book but the same author: > > "Introduction to quartz crystal unit design" There seems to be a copy in the > UK I see several copies of this in the $20 range on bookfinder.com, click "view all matches combined" at the link

Re: [time-nuts] WWVB PM Time Questions

2020-07-25 Thread Ben Bradley
I saw this the other day but not sure if this was answered: > I read the document "Enhanced WWVB Broadcast Format" by John Lowe from > NIST. One thing that is confusing to me is this paragraph: "Although the > phase representing the information in each symbol is shown to be > available before the

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Ben Bradley
Adafruit and Sparkfun sell a remarkable number of SMT parts already on breakout boards for moderate prices. I looked up the three parts and found the DS3231 on a board (two different boards even), in stock and ready to order from Adafruit (most Adafruit and Sparkfun products are also sold through

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment

2020-04-11 Thread Ben Bradley
Despite my interest in the precision high-end of electronic design (and thus being a subscriber to this list), I have very little experience with such high-fallutin' designs. Still, I've done and seen some "interesting" things in my career. It's amazing how the minutiae of even jelly bean

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium Mechanical Chronometer

2020-02-01 Thread Ben Bradley
> > On Feb 1, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Ben Bradley wrote: > > > > I'm wondering about the balance wheel, if it's ferromagnetic (has iron > > or steel in it, which would probably make this idea not work), or if > > it's perhaps all aluminum or similar non-magnetic material. A

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium Mechanical Chronometer

2020-02-01 Thread Ben Bradley
I'm wondering about the balance wheel, if it's ferromagnetic (has iron or steel in it, which would probably make this idea not work), or if it's perhaps all aluminum or similar non-magnetic material. Adding a constant magnetic field from a coil and electric current source would provide a magnetic

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Ben Bradley
You may be interested in a thread here earlier this year titled "Absolute time accuracy pre-Cesium?" starting March 25. Also, look for references to John Harrison in the archives. There's a video showing several of his clocks running with the grasshopper escapement, and one of his long clocks

Re: [time-nuts] Neural net to control oven temperature ?

2019-07-10 Thread Ben Bradley
://www.electronicdesign.com/files/29/6131/figure_02.gif https://web.archive.org/web/20121113202731/https://www.electronicdesign.com/files/29/6131/figure_03.gif On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:06 AM Ben Bradley wrote: > > I recall Bob Pease in one of his many "What's all this ...stuff" > columns made a

Re: [time-nuts] Neural net to control oven temperature ?

2019-07-10 Thread Ben Bradley
I recall Bob Pease in one of his many "What's all this ...stuff" columns made a small oven and PID temperature controller that he claimed kept the temperature within 0.001 degrees or something like that. This would make machine learning severe overkill. Temp control is slow enough (and

Re: [time-nuts] Pioneering Deep-Space Atomic Clock Taking Flight This Month

2019-06-06 Thread Ben Bradley
I just read this on Gizmodo, it surely adds no technical info for this crowd, but I'm impressed with both how much info it does have, as well as its correctness for a layman-oriented article: https://gizmodo.com/why-is-nasa-sending-an-atomic-clock-into-space-1835282558 On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 8:00

Re: [time-nuts] The forbidden question

2019-06-05 Thread Ben Bradley
This thread reminds me of a few things, firstly, nuclear fusion: On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 1:00 AM jimlux wrote: > > 30 odd years ago, I heard a speech from a guy at AT who said that by > definition, you cannot predict technology that will result in a > revolution ahead of time. >The cost of a

Re: [time-nuts] Absolute time accuracy pre-Cesium?

2019-03-25 Thread Ben Bradley
For independent standards (not quite what you asked) I recall from "The Science of Clocks and Watches" (a book with much technical info if you're interested in these mechanical devices) that the most accurate mechanical/pendulum clock was the Shortt Clock that used a pendulum in a vacuum chamber

Re: [time-nuts] multimeter

2019-03-24 Thread Ben Bradley
I have a comment regarding "classic equipment." About 20 years ago I got an HP 410B VTVM, was pleasantly surprised that it still appeared to be within the stated accuracy, but was astounded to find the short-circuit current (measured the current range on a modern DMM) on the 1-ohm scale was 100mA.

Re: [time-nuts] Clock project request from IEEE

2019-02-24 Thread Ben Bradley
I have a bit of a "crude but effective" idea regarding getting Daylight Savings and local time and such - get the current time (hour) from local cellular signals with a cellular phone module, like one of these: https://www.adafruit.com/category/281 If I understand correctly, you don't need