Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair

2020-10-23 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 10/23/2020 3:52 PM, paul swed wrote: Corby I have run into issues with the older coax essentially rotting internally. It allows teh center conductor to tough the outer in the worst case. Is FWIW, in those days HP had its own internal shop that made wire and coax. This situation could acc

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair

2020-10-23 Thread paul swed
Corby I have run into issues with the older coax essentially rotting internally. It allows teh center conductor to tough the outer in the worst case. Is that a concern from your experience? HP 3586 slvm as an example. How hard was it to get that unit out. (Hoping I never need to actually do this) R

[time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair

2020-10-23 Thread cdelect
If the unit fails again just diconnect the 60Mhz output jack from A3 and Ohm from the center pin to shield on the cables connector with a semiconductor setting on the DVM. Try both directions as the diode can be installed either way. If you can "see" the diode that way it is most certainly good. I

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 22.10.20 um 23:54 schrieb Richard (Rick) Karlquist: I suspect that the stock 5065 chain has better phase noise than this chip.  I know for sure that you can get much better phase noise than this chip by using conventional architectures. Of course they are more complicated, etc.  Just wanted t

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread ed breya
I doubt that the SRD is the problem. It's just the last thing in the chain, and a number of things ahead of it all have to work right first. I'd look first at any connections and wiring between various sections, and jiggle things around to see if the symptoms can return. Next, if ICs and trans

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
I suspect that the stock 5065 chain has better phase noise than this chip. I know for sure that you can get much better phase noise than this chip by using conventional architectures. Of course they are more complicated, etc. Just wanted to put this chip in perspective. Rick N6RK On 10/22/202

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
I would tend to agree with the assessment that the SRD is not a high failure rate item. Also, it could experience a faux failure where the fixturing of it corroded such that it was not making good electrical contact any more, but the underlying diode was still good. Cleaning up the contact area

[time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread cdelect
Ulf, I have never had a 5065A with a bad or malfunctioning step recovery diode in the physics package. MANY other problems are more likely the cause. Cheers, Corby ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http:/

Re: [time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The device in the cavity that takes the 60 MHz up to 6.x GHz is a step recovery diode ( SRD ). The actual device used (apparently) was unique to the 5065. One proposed “fix” is to eliminate the whole synth / multiply empire and replace it with a very high resolution DDS generating the 6.x GH

[time-nuts] 5065A Rb Cavity RX - Varactor repair?

2020-10-22 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Strolled into my little lab only to find the 5065A's Red Integrator Limit  light on. Control negative fsd. PhotoCurrent OK. No 2nd harmonic. Was just about to power off and start to disassemble the unit. All of a sudden, the Integrator light went out. Control went to zero and by pressing Rese